Baller swc5150 Posted April 8, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 8, 2015 Glad they fixed the tranny for '15. The '14 5.7 we tested was a slug out of the hole. The boat had such cool features, we were just bummed that it rode just like the 9 other Prostars we've owned over the years...kidney bruising ride on bumpy public water. A great boat for private lake use however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted April 8, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted April 8, 2015 Go for the Nautique, they can take anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted April 8, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 8, 2015 Is that your new one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted April 8, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted April 8, 2015 Thank God ours is yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted April 9, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 9, 2015 @MS has a really cool black/gold/grey/white combo...perfect Iowa Hawkeye boat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BobF Posted April 9, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 9, 2015 That sad pic and dog are mine, unfortunately. Our ice is gone and we've finally had a chance to get out and make sure all is well after a looong winter! I'd love to ski the new Prostar to be able to compare to the 200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gginco Posted April 9, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 9, 2015 Does anybody have experience with a 2014 5.7 MC running at altitude? Will a 5.7 reasonably reach speed at 5000 feet on a 2200 foot lake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skinut Posted April 10, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 10, 2015 @gginco I second Scot's comment. We are at 4500 in elevation with a 2100 lake and the boat (a 2014) struggled to get to speed at 34. No way you'd get up to 36. Wake is great and layout but it seemed the steering required a lot of input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gginco Posted April 10, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 10, 2015 I drove a 6.2L 2015 a couple weeks ago and it's definitely stronger than the '14. I don't know if they made changes to the 6.2L but it's certainly seems to have more hole shot. It doesn't seem to have that ultra buttery wake anymore though. Give up one to get the other I guess. I also noticed how crazy loud it is. You can't have a conversation without yelling "what?" at least 3 times in 16.95 seconds. Still a beautiful boat but is $80k realistic for a boat that seems to under perform in too many places? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted April 11, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 11, 2015 The 6.2 is like an angry caged beast. Haven't been able to ski it yet, but will let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted April 11, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted April 11, 2015 That's what I want to slalom behind! An Angry caged beast!! yee-ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted April 11, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 11, 2015 Jim told me his kids fell out of the passenger seat when he stuffed it on a hole shot and nearly 50 mph on brief shot to WOT with only 2 hrs on it. I love an angry, caged beast both auto and boat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodeski123 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 definitely nautique is the best the prostar has to many problems with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted April 14, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 14, 2015 @goodeski123 do tell about these problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted April 14, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 14, 2015 @goodeski123 The 200 had plenty of growing pains it's first year in 2010, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodeski123 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 oh ok, I never realised that. mastercraft just seem to chew lots of fuel and the fuel gage is mucked up. but I guess a boats a boat, its better than what they had back in the old days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted April 14, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 14, 2015 Other than alternative propping by some and the saddle bag hinges catching fraying the rope, what other major tweaks did the 200 undergo after 2010? I believe my brother's '12 has the same prop as the 2010 did from the factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted April 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 16, 2015 I have now skied my 6.2L twice and pulled my wife twice. Observations - First, I am a horsepower junkie!!! I love the engine. The boat feels light and comes out and accelerates like a rocket -- fastest inboard I've ever been in. Two, the wakes are even better than last year. Three, steering is better. Less load on the rudder and much smoother feeling. Did I mention that I love the feel of 450hp??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mwetskier Posted April 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 16, 2015 ' Thank God ours is yellow. ' @MS -assume it was yellow *before* the dog got involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Jordan Posted April 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 16, 2015 @Razorskier1 please consider a more in depth write-up as you get more time on the boat...I think that we are all very interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted April 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 16, 2015 Chevy, Ford, Ford, Chevy, Ford, Chevy....both are great, pick the one you like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Onside135 Posted April 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 16, 2015 @Razorskier1…Did I miss something. I thought I recalled you being one of the first to own a 2014 Prostar last summer (5.7L). Did something change, and you now have the 6.2L? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted April 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 16, 2015 @Onside135 -- you are correct. After getting the 5.7L it became clear that I wasn't getting enough speed to barefoot, particularly not with two at a time. I worked out an agreement with my dealer to swap for a new 2015 with the 6.2L. For slalom the 5.7L was fine. It felt great to ski behind and I really liked the pull. However, as a horsepower junkie at heart, I am thrilled with the bigger engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted April 16, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted April 16, 2015 @Razorskier1, I think the new 2015 transmission is also key The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted April 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 16, 2015 @MISkier not sure the transmission applies to the 6.2. Would be curious to hear about the transmission and the 5.7 for 2015. Regardless a 6.2 that is lighter than a 5.7 and has 450 hp should move the Prostar out pretty well! I like the more powerful engine option in the CC200 as well...a buddy in FL has one and it rocks...drove one of @Jody_Seal's as well. Awesome. Looking forward to laying some 2 and 4 ball wood to @razorskier1's new ride. I liked his 2014 a lot but thought it needed more juice and less rudder...sounds like both of my critiques are solved with his 6.2 2015. Disclaimer; horsepower junkie runs in the family...I've never wished for less horsepower boat or auto...but often wished for more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E_T Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I want to see the 7.4L in a prostar because why not... Its the same size as a 6.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted April 16, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted April 16, 2015 There is no replacement for displacement. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted April 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 16, 2015 @E_T might as well go all the way with an 8.1L - why not, same size as a 7.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted April 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 16, 2015 My Nautique dealer buddy said CC was considering offering the 550hp in the 200, then decided against it. That would've been unreal, but perhaps it affected the wake too much or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E_T Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I want to see under the box of Freddy Kruger's boat..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted April 16, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted April 16, 2015 I had a 8.1 Python in a 98 Ski Nautique. No the Super charged 550 was never even considered as an option in the 200 due to realistic common sense Liability! Even if ski Flying were to become prevalent again Nautique boats if they did participate with the program in a supercharged package it would never leave their sight and would stay in the hands of factory personnel and only anointed driver's would pilot them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicolecf Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I know you have not mentioned this boat, however we have the carbon pro centurion and I love the boat, super fun to drive, wakebis flat..amazing I like the nautique over pro star for sure Good luck!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted April 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 16, 2015 Must be a bunch of pansies at CC ;) You can get a 550 in a Gekko GTR 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RAWSki Posted April 16, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 16, 2015 I do like the 6.0L in my CP as well but it does seem there are 'diminishing returns' adding horsepower in almost all these boats if you aren't at high altitude, pulling tournaments or tandem bare footing is the 400+HP worth the price, most people are more than happy with the 5.7 aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted April 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 17, 2015 @swc5150 Nothing major. Just little things. The hinges. Different fuel filler because the original managed to puke fuel everywhere no matter how you filled it up. ECM updates because of the atrocious fuel economy. ZO updates that were specific to the 200 hull. We're now on the 3rd factory prop for 5.7s. If your brother's has the original prop, that thing is a turd. He needs to put the current prop on it. The point being, no cutting edge product is going to be 100% in it's first year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted April 17, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted April 17, 2015 I spent the better part of today behind the wheel of the 2015 Nautique 200 to be used as the slalom boat at the Masters. Apparently it need to be broken in, though we called it "water skiing." Totally sweet. For all you folks that have been complaining about the throttle the last couple years, the new throttle is a thing of beauty. The ZO display takes a little figuring out, but once you learn your way around, it is very nice and easy to use. Changing speeds and settings is much easier and quicker than with the old display. The only thing I didn't like was having to get out of the boat at the end of the day! Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SM Posted April 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 17, 2015 Skiing behind the boat was pretty cool too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted April 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 17, 2015 @shaneh What's the advantage of the latest 5.7 prop for the 200? Is it just fuel economy? My bro's sucks gas for sure, but pulls like a beast, and jumps out of the hole. We're 34mph skiers, so the motor isn't working quite as hard compared to 36. At 36 the engine is screaming. Loves me our Nautiques, but as far as new hulls, I think the TXi is the most efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted April 17, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted April 17, 2015 I'll be skiing and driving our club's new 2015 TXi today. Our 2014 was great and I hope this one is just like it or better. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted April 17, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted April 17, 2015 @lpskier , How do you know you used the Masters Slalom Boat? I thought I had the Masters Slalom boat! No just kidding! Please keep in mind that we do have the three units designated for the US Masters out in the field right now being skied with and to have some breakin time put on them. I had one of them at lake 38 this past Sunday (it's ok now Keith the cat's out of the bag) also at Picko's last Wed and it is a great skiing boat. But to be candid the boat's when final prepped for the Masters will have real cool wraps as each event has a title sponsor and until then we will decide what boat will pull what event. We would like to think that our ski boats are very consistent and that any one of them are ready to be utilized in any of the three event's at the Master's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted April 17, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted April 17, 2015 Our 13 5.7 200 has a 654 on it and feels like it is where it is supposed to be. We have a 422 that we will try when the water warms but this one feels pretty good. We have zero issues with speed. It feels like a big 196 that doesn't handle as well around docks and tight quarters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted April 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 17, 2015 We tried a new 422's and it seemed to reduce performance. Would like to sample a 654 on it, but not with my money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skierjp Posted April 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 17, 2015 The 654 is the recommended prop and most likely the one that should be on all tournament 5.7's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skierjp Posted April 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 17, 2015 Lpskier, are you saying the Link System Zero Off looks different then last year? It's pretty much been the same for a number of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted April 17, 2015 Baller Share Posted April 17, 2015 Can never get enough love, money, or horsepower. A quote from my friend Mark Overbye at Gekko Boats. He nailed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted April 19, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted April 19, 2015 @Jody_Seal Regardless, getting out of the driver's seat for the last time was like putting my girlfriend on an airplane for a year in the Peace Corps. Very sweet boat and I'll miss driving it. It was certainly the nicest Nautique I've driven and I've owned several well set up boats and driven a lot more. Then again, I keep thinking that Nautique couldn't build a better boat, and every year they do! Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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