Edge change at -22

[cragginshred]

I thought I was going to get right into -28 but was sorely mistaken. My edge change at -22 is not solid and this put me flat into 1 ball trying -28 tonight. I get it...you can get away with a lot of poor tech at -22. So as I went back to -22 I finally felt what you all and the fellas on the dock were encouraging me to do -edge change early with out going flat toward to ball.

 

What was key for you at -22 to learn this? I usually can only think of 1 new thing at a time to work on and have real been working on letting the ski fish the turn and getting stacked into 2-4-6. As this become more automatic I am hoping to work on consciously casting the ski out with a better edge change. Advice on making it happen and hard wiring it?

[Horton]

If you are stacked and strong but relaxed the edge change basically just happens. I would need to see video to say more.

[Gloersen]

add to this TW article linked below - straight arms - don't bicep the handle (don't do a "pull-up") through the centerline trying to get a (false) sense of creating space.

 

Proper Edge Change

[Chef23]

I agree that if your body position and lean behind the boat is good the edge change will happen. Try slowing the boat down and working on 28 at a slower speed then gradually speed up.

[Marco]

The edge change is a result of what happens prior. You can't just say "change edges earlier" without changing technique. The edge change is a result of releasing load from the ski. For that to happen earlier, you need to have better angle (earlier load), which also requires a better stack to hold that angle.

 

Think about starting higher on the boat, with increasing load that peaks near the first wake. The resulting "rebound" is the start of the edge change. Kind of like jumping on a trampoline. The peak load is at the bottom (behind the boat), and the beginning of the spring upward is the unloading that equates to the beginning of the edge change.

[Marco]

Oh yeah... and once you create that good angle, keep the handle low and in from the edge change out to the buoy line so you don't go flat and ski down to the ball.

[Than_Bogan]

That's some great and well-worded advice from @Marco there. Take it to heart.

[Skoot1123]

The first time I tried -28 I thought: how in the world can you do this? I came into the buoy straight, flying, and "out" of control. A couple things cause this but really there is a big jump from -22 to -28 off. I echo what @Chef23 said. Slow the boat down a little bit so you don't feel so rushed then start to speed it up once you establish a sort of rythm.

 

Technique wise you'll want to focus on stack, being centered on the ski, handle low and to the hips, and HANDLE CONTROL. KEEP that handle with both hands until the last possible "second" and then release from the boat. That'll set you up for a great turn and great stack and shoot you over to the next buoy. Good luck!

[SkiJay]

@cragginshred‌ What I see foiling a lot of skier's efforts to change edges earlier is being stuck in a static pulling position into the second wake, still heavy on the front foot. By the time you are hitting the prop wash, your feet and hips should be moving past the handle which causes an automatic early edge change. For the edge change to be earlier, the ski needs to get ahead of you earlier, so this whole move needs to start out by the first wake.

[Waternut]

Change edges earlier?

 

If I change edges at the second wake, I'm wide enough and feel like I'm in control but by 3 ball, I'm way behind because I'm getting wide AT the ball and not before the ball. Imagine pushing the turn buoys 4-5 feet out and then running the course like that. If I can hold a decent edge through the second wake, I've noticed that I'm earlier, wider, and clipping the backside of the ball because I was at my widest point 5-10 feet before the ball. It was one of those eye opening experiences the first time it happened and if I can run my opener like that, I know it's going to be a good day.

 

Unfortunately, the ability to actually hold that angle through both wakes does come from what happened beforehand like others have said. For me that means not hitting it quite so hard out of the previous turn so I can load the line just a little later and therefore hold my edge just a little longer.

[Ilivetoski]

I can tell you from what I learned just yesterday which is making my 32 more consistent. Do not change edges at 2nd wake. Until you get to 35 you have to pull through both wakes and switch edges in whitewash. Do not short pull or you will find yourself narrow and only getting as wide as the buoy.

[Marco]

@Ilivetoski - You can run 15 by pulling all the way to the buoy, you can run 22 by pulling to 10 feet before the buoy, you can run 28 by pulling through the 2nd whitewash. To run 38 you have to change edges near the 2nd wake.

 

You can also run 15, 22, 28, 32, and 35 by changing edges near the 2nd wake. It is all a function of getting enough speed prior to the edge change to carry you through the turn. Might as well practice the technique that works at all line lengths, so you don't have to change as you get shorter. Generate speed early. Seth has a great video showing him at 32mph -15, I think, and he is still changing edges behind the boat...

[LkSamm196]

Been freeskiing at -28, but recently switched to -22 (change it up, work on some things....)

 

I am having a really difficult time changing edges at the mid-point/ 2nd wake. Always feel myself still on it at the 2nd wake and beyond. No slack however.

 

Will try to put up a video

 

Ed

[2tracmind]

Great thread and perfect timing for me. After gutting out the odd 32 and 50-50 on 28's I spent the last two years rebuilding, focusing on my stack with success. Multiple ski partner's have consistently stated the my pulling position is excellent, however i have been unable to convert this to shortline. I am now convinced it is "timing and rhythm ", I can have great starts and 2-3 great buoys but then lose it. Last weekend I focused on not long pulling and it started to clean things up.

10 days of vacation at the lake - focus - early change and handle low and in !!!

Thanks

[SkiJay]

If you have any doubts about being able to run a nice early pass on long line while changing edges early, watch @Horton‌ at the link below.

 

All you need is efficient speed ball-to-wake. If you run -22 better by pulling longer, it's because you aren't accelerating quickly enough. You can break the pull-long habit now or later as the rope shortens; but the longer you wait, the more ingrained your old habits will be.

 

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