2Skis20SecondsorLess Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 PJ Hoffmaster State Park DNR office would not be the correct office to pursue any course permits, while they have been super helpful with brainstorming solutions for shared water space. Water permits (course permits) all have to go through the Plainwell branch as they are they are the designation office for the waterway contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted November 23, 2021 Baller_ Share Posted November 23, 2021 @2Skis20SecondsorLess, the reason to involve PJ Hoffmaster staff is not for the permit itself. It is because they manage the Bass River Recreation Area and would need to consider any request for that location, just as they manage the involvement of the equestrian clubs that ride on those trails there. They would need to approve of that usage before it even gets to the permit process. They would subsequently run the permit request through the District 7 Law Enforcement division of the DNR in Plainwell, as they did in the past. The Plainwell officers were also on our email exchanges and included in communications with the PJ Hoffmaster staff when this was last discussed in 2015. I agree that other permit requests for ordinary public lakes would just need to go through the proper District Law Enforcement office and would not require the involvement of the PJ Hoffmaster staff. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MI3Eventer Posted November 23, 2021 Baller Share Posted November 23, 2021 @Mastercrafter can you find enough people to make that a reality? Looks like an awesome possibility, maybe after some time the guy has thought might as well sign a short term lease?? MI needs more sites ahha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mastercrafter Posted November 23, 2021 Baller Share Posted November 23, 2021 @MI3Eventer would be cool if it could be reality. Wish I was a developer or knew one well, or had a casual $1m chillin in the bank, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted November 23, 2021 Baller Share Posted November 23, 2021 @Mastercrafter how much does peat mining pay? Don't need a casual Mill so long as you have a business plan that can barely break even. Wasn't that the issue with the lake in Florida its a "fish farm" shaped like a ski lake that had no business plan for fish farming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestLake Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Hey all, happy New Year! Just seeing this post, so jumping in. Right now Monday's are open at Forest Lake and we would consider an "open ski" format for anyone interested, or we could do a casual tournament series. To be whole as a site (everything costs something) we need to cover the cost of gas, boat, and driver. With the "laws" of averages and depreciation we need to bring in a minimum of $200 per hour to hit the break even point. We are absolutely open to all ideas on how to format a night for anyone to come and ski - we don't do memberships and want to make the sport accessible to everyone. We are also piloting a "Maid to Ski" program for college kids wanting "free" water time this summer. @JPwaterski please check it out and share! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mastercrafter Posted February 15, 2022 Baller Share Posted February 15, 2022 Curious if anyone knows who's lake this is in Saugatuck, MI. I drove by it in 2020 and just happened to find it on Google Maps. As of fall 2020, there were some houses being built and the lake was just dug, but full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted February 15, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted February 15, 2022 @Mastercrafter, A quick search gets this info: Current Tax Parcel : 20-003-063-18 Owner: BEACHSIDE FARMS LLC Property Address: 66TH ST/135TH/HOLLAND ST Acres: 29.39 And, the hearing to grant the permit to mine the sand, etc. for the lake: The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mastercrafter Posted February 15, 2022 Baller Share Posted February 15, 2022 @MISkier interesting, thanks. Didn't know if it was well-known or not. It's short at 1450' on Google earth, maybe it's not even a ski lake, or they just worked with what they had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted February 15, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted February 15, 2022 @Mastercrafter, The permit is to "expand an existing pond to an approximately 10.7 acre lake by excavating from upland approximately 180,606 cubic yards in an area approximately 1,653 feet long, 295 feet wide, and a maximum depth of 20 feet". So, it will be short, but possible, especially as an 8-buoy course. And, who knows if they will exceed that "approximately 1,653 feet long". The owner's home is on 66th St. It is not a project I have heard anything about, but great to see it happening. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPC_1 Posted February 16, 2022 Share Posted February 16, 2022 Back in the day we skied every Sunday on the Grand River at Riverside Park. I probably wouldn’t recommend it or do it now … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted June 3, 2022 Baller_ Share Posted June 3, 2022 @MI3Eventer and @JPwaterski, has there been any luck in finding a more permanent home for the Grand Valley Water Ski Team? Any luck on resurrecting Buddy's Pond with a course permit or getting a new site from the previous options in this thread? If you are still looking, here is one in West Olive, courtesy of @DaveD. It is Emerald Lakes Sand Pit. Perhaps it could be an option to pursue, if you can get agreement from the mining operation to use it. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRGR Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 I’ve been chatting with Liz and Alan at Forest Lake. We don’t have anything set in stone, but I’d be up for “sharing” sets or figuring out a day/night to head down. I’ll only be jumping, but I’d bet we could make something work for slalom as well. PM me if you want to try to coordinate something. Thanks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller kurt Posted June 5, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 5, 2022 @miskier that is still an active mining sand pit , so no fun stuff yet! The question has been asked to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MI3Eventer Posted June 6, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2022 @MISkier working with GV to piece back their portable course before i start the permit process with DNR. Yeah we are waiting on that to be finished mining out so WS can have two sites ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRGR Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 @MI3Eventer. It has been almost 20 years since it has been used, but I think I might still have most of the parts for an InstaSlalom in my cottage garage. It was used about a half a dozen times, DNR caught wind of it after the jet skiers found it, and I didn't take the time to try to get a permit for it. If you want, I can try to dig it up. IIRC, everything (minus bouys) is there and working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MI3Eventer Posted June 6, 2022 Baller Share Posted June 6, 2022 @RRGR at this point I believe they are just looking for anchor and buoys, anchors I can fix easy haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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