Baller MichaelGoodman Posted June 17, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 17, 2014 Which tracks better in the course is there much of a difference between the two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted June 17, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 17, 2014 TXI tracks better, less roll and wakes are substantially better at slower speeds, owned an '07 LXI and now a TXI... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOODESkier Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Agree with @jayski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted June 18, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 18, 2014 Txi has better cockpit ergonomics as well...my main complaint with the Lxi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jhughes Posted June 18, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 18, 2014 Which generation? 03-06 LXi seems to stick/track better than the TXi, at least that is what it seems like to me. I have a buddy with an 06 and that is a terrific boat. IMO Malibu really hit it out of the park with that first LXi generation. I was never fond of anything about the 07-11 LXi FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kstateskier Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I mirror @jhughes... the first gen LXIs are fantastic boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inland Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I have a good friend with a 2013 TXi. It's a terrific boat. Well executed in every way, IMO. I own a 2006 LXI and it's equally terrific. What I notice most, other than ZO, is that the throttle is much more sensitive on the TXi than my LXI. I do think that my 2006 tracks slightly better than the 2013. They're both great boats. By comparison from an ergonomics position, the TXi is no question better. From the perspective of the wake, the difference between the 2 is nominal and mostly noted in slow speeds, longer line length. Given the above......I'll likely not be selling my LXI for a long time. It's a great boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ozski Posted June 18, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 18, 2014 My 2004 LXi is on rails, its a seriously good boat to drive. The only perceived benefit of the new TXi is ZO. With the new version of PP being so good I could not justify the outlay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MichaelGoodman Posted June 18, 2014 Author Baller Share Posted June 18, 2014 Thanks for the comments I have a 2005 LXI I love it but am toying with upgrading to get ZO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mlange Posted June 18, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 18, 2014 Surprised to hear people saying the 03-06 LXi's track better. I had an '04 RLXi and now a '12 TXi and while I loved the RLXi the TXi tracks very noticeably better. Mine did pull the Malibu Open a couple of years so perhaps what it comes down to is how well the boats in question are set up. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted June 18, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 18, 2014 ECM upgrade on a 2006 Lxi will allow for ZO in that boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inland Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 @ToddL I looked at that. It's not in the cards for me this season. It's a pricey upgrade to put ZO on the 2006 LXi. @mlange I think you're right. Set up is key and something I'm still messing with a little on my new to me boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldjeep Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 Curious what the ergonomic differences are? My FIL has a 2005? LXI and aside from my video game system dash I'd say that a 2012 VTX has pretty much the same setup. Always assumed that the VTX/TXI of the same years would be similar cockpit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mlange Posted June 18, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 18, 2014 Perhaps the biggest complaints that I always heard were: 1. The windshield frame was right at eye level. 2. The seat was too low. 3. With the windshield coming back further than normal it was harder to talk with someone that was on the boom. All three of those are greatly improved in the TXi. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldjeep Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 @mlange I can definitely see the 1st 2, although honestly the same is true on my VTX - really depends on how tall you are. I've got a guy who is building a 4" spacer for my drivers seat so that I can just look over the windshield and my wife can look through it (she is really short). With all the fancy stuff they put in these boats, a height adjustment on the seat would be a welcome change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted June 18, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 18, 2014 I always have the seat bolster pad flipped up over the seat when I drive the '06 LXi. Puts the buoys right at the top of the windshield, but not in the frame for me. Without it, I feel like I can't see the nose of the boat and idling around fallen skiers and buoys becomes less safe in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted June 18, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 18, 2014 @inland - yep. Around $3k. But less than a $50+k new boat. It is probably not going to be something that we get back in full upon the sale of our 06 LXi, but it will open up the market more to include active tournament skiers who want to train behind ZO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MichaelGoodman Posted June 18, 2014 Author Baller Share Posted June 18, 2014 Can a 05 LXI also be upgraded to ZO for around $3,000 or does the 06 have a different set up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted June 18, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 18, 2014 I'm 5 ft 11 and felt like I had to use the flip up bolster in the lxi. @mlange is spot-on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller davemac Posted June 18, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 18, 2014 I'm 5-10", on my '03 RLXi I put close to a 3" spacer on the driver seat rails...and still use the flip up bolster 90% of the time. I love the boat, wake, tracking. Gripes would be limited to the driver ergonomics, windshield design, and bow can be chili dipped if not careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted June 18, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 18, 2014 @MichaelGoodman I don't know. I would assume that if the 05' and 06' have the same engine option, that the possibility would exist for the '05 as well. Our '06 has the Monsoon engine. Maybe @GregY can comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregy Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 If the engine has drive by wire throttle it should be convertible to ZO. I've heard 07 and later. 07 was first year of the new hull design for the LXI. The LXI Toddl and I ski with was an 08 that has the conversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jhughes Posted June 18, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 18, 2014 2006 RLXi is DBW, first year of DBW for 'Bu. 07 was DBW and shift-by-wire which I think they bailed on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inland Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 @jhughes is right. 2005 was still mechanical throttle and therefore not upgradeable to ZO. The closest you'll get is the Z-box upgrade to PP. @ToddL I agree with your sentiment about the $3k upgrade vs. a $50k boat. Hopefully next season I can set mine up. There's no way the CFO will allow it this year. We've dumped enough cash on new toys this year, namely the '06 RLXi and her pontoon. I can just see the look on her face if I brought it up......not good. I too am 5'-10" and I use the flip up bolster whenever I'm towing a skier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted June 18, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 18, 2014 @GregY - oh, crud... you're right! Jeran's boat is an '08. I have repeatedly gotten it pigeon-holed in my mind as an 06. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreipe Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 We have an 05 LXi - agree completely with @mlange on the 3 points. Seem minor, but they are very noticeable. Otherwise a great slalom boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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