Baller dchristman Posted June 7, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 7, 2014 Over the last year several folks I ski with have gotten Strada bindings. At the end of their set, they seem to have great difficulty getting out of the bindings, and fumble around in the water for a while trying to get out. Is this a typical experience, or do they have the top lace too tight? I got a pair of the similar O'brien Prodigy bindings... when I'm finished I grab the tip of the ski and pull and my feet with the liners pop right out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller nam1975 Posted June 8, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2014 Too tight?! Keep the top laces sung, not tight. Mine come right off with a little pull on the tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted June 8, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2014 I always undid the laces and pulled my foot out of the liner. I think this helps preserve the liner. It takes me almost no time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skoot1123 Posted June 8, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2014 I agree with @Chef23 - I undo the top laces fairly easily after my set. Key is not having them too tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Onside135 Posted June 8, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2014 I've never had any issues getting out of my RS-1s...(older version of stradas). A guy I ski with has Stradas and he seems to be able to get his laces undone prior to settling into the lake from his last pull out and glide after releasing the handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted June 8, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2014 Once in a while I will test the lace tightness by pulling my feet out (with liners) without loosening them. I always come right out easily. If you cannot, they are too tight and you are risking injury. Usually, to save wear and tear on the laces, I loosen them before pulling the ski off my feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rayn Posted June 8, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2014 I always undo the Velcro on the cross piece and loosen the two cords and pull my foot out of the liner to preserve the liner as @chef23 says. Takes no time at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted June 8, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2014 Top laces are kept just barely snug. Bottom laces are pretty tight. I typically release the top lace by popping it off one of the hooks using only one finger. I can pull out of then without releasing the top lace, but save on wear and tear. I never losen the bottom laces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted June 8, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2014 If you can't pull your foot out without loosening the top lace, it's too tight, unless you like your foot to always stay in during a fall. I get mine pretty snug but can still pull my feet out after skiing. I occasionally check this to make sure I can come out but not after every round. Finding the top lace tab can be cumbersome with Kevlar or Power Locks. Much easier with Amara gloves to feel. I also spray my liner bottoms and heels with silicone and they slide in easier to reduce wear and tear. I haven't noticed if they come out easier, but assume they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dchristman Posted June 8, 2014 Author Baller Share Posted June 8, 2014 Thanks all. I will pass on your comments today and stop nagging them. I think the key is to test the release in the water as @zman and @ab said - you should be able to get out without too much effort or pain. How you get out when you're done doesn't have to be the way it would happen in an actual emergency release situation... take all the time you want taking off your gloves and futzing with the strings and velcro to save on wear and tear, but not because that's the only way you can get out. For you guys that just undo the top lace when finished, does the liner come out with your foot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted June 8, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2014 @AB I agree you should be able to pull your foot out easily without loosening the laces. To protect the longevity of the laces and bladder I prefer to pull my foot out with everything loose at the end of the set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted June 8, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2014 I only undo the top lace to get out, and yes the liners come out with my feet. I leave the bottom laces very snug always, never loosen them, and no extra wear comes from it that I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted June 8, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2014 I only undo the top lace when getting out, then the lower lace after I am out of the water, only because it is easier to stuff the boot into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skierjp Posted June 8, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2014 Why wouldn't you undo both laces? I do it's no big deal with gloves on. I pull top and bottom as tight as I can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted June 8, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 8, 2014 For me, the lower lace determines my connection to the ski and my ability to put pressure on the nose of the ski when needed. So, once I got that right, I leave it alone. The upper laces should never be "as tight as I can" unless you never want to come out of your bindings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller andjules Posted June 9, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 9, 2014 Maybe I'm causing undue wear, but with the top laces not-done-too-tightly (as it should be), as I sink in to the water I lift my heels (back especially), reach down and grab the tip of my ski and pull it towards me. Liners come out on my feet, haven't even touched the laces. (note: RS-1s, predecessors to Stradas). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mwetskier Posted June 9, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 9, 2014 i prefer to unhook the top laces then use my thumb to hold the back liner in place and pull my foot out leaving the liner in the shell. then i put my back toes against the front liner and grab the ski tip to pull my front foot out leaving that liner in the shell too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted June 9, 2014 Administrators Share Posted June 9, 2014 You should always be able to take them off WITHOUT loosening the laces. That said I unhook one side of the top lace at the end of my ride so I am not hard on inserts. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Erik4c Posted June 10, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 10, 2014 I don't tighten my lower laces on my stradas anymore. I was having foot cramping issues. I tighten the top laces tight enough to feel comfortable but loose enough to release. I test to see that my heels can rise a bit when I'm on the dock before I ski every set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegile Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I always pull out the liners on my feet after loosening the top laces. Living in the Pacific Northwet, I store them on the handle of my ski bag with a carabiner so they can dry and not get the funk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Commuterfisher Posted June 11, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 11, 2014 Fluid motion sells an easy pull chord lock. Sometimes it is hard to get your finger on that wheel lock and pull up to loosen. This should do the trick. http://www.jagersport.com/product_info.php?cPath=88&products_id=347 $ 9.95 for two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mwetskier Posted June 11, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 11, 2014 fluid motion is taking a pretty hefty mark up. they get $10 for 2 cord locks but this company sell them at $23 for 100 pieces. http://www.thewebsource.ca/asian_plastic/discplas2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Commuterfisher Posted June 11, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 11, 2014 @wetskier I see there are other companies selling the chord lord but what is their minimum order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Wolfeie Posted June 13, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 13, 2014 A lot of the fumbling are skiers trying to pull up the little button (tab) on the small plastic piece that holds the elastic laces in place.... with gloves on. Sometimes you have to undo the top part of the lace so that there is no side pressure which holds the tab down. I like to take my feet out of the RS1 bindings with the liners still inside the shell so I don't have to mess with inserting them back inside the shell. If we took off one glove first, it would probably be faster without any fumbling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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