Baller DefectiveDave Posted April 5, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 5, 2014 I recently acquired a reflex binder system with the monoplate. I'm currently trying to mount it on the ski. The 6 mounting inserts for the front binder match perfectly, but the 4 mounting inserts for the back binder do not. I'm thinking I could seal the existing inserts (probably with hot-glue or marine jb weld) and drill new pilot holes to match the monoplate (I do not want to drill the plate). This is where I start to get a little nervous though as I don't want to screw up the ski. Can I just use a standard lag screw and drill into the ski to mount the back of the monoplate or should I install new inserts? What is typical best practice? If I should really install the inserts where can I get them? Any help is greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted April 5, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 5, 2014 Uhhhhhhh drill the plate, not the ski!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OTF Posted April 5, 2014 Members Share Posted April 5, 2014 Drill the plate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller mwetskier Posted April 5, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 5, 2014 what they said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DefectiveDave Posted April 5, 2014 Author Baller Share Posted April 5, 2014 I should have elaborated more. The problem isn't that I'm unwilling to drill the plate, the problem is that the current inserts are on the very edge of the plate or very near existing holes. Any "hole" I drill would really be more like a slot. I also want to be able to easily adjust the plate forward and back which is easier if I use the existing holes in the plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DefectiveDave Posted April 5, 2014 Author Baller Share Posted April 5, 2014 This just occurred to me, but this is likely happening because I'm moving from a double binder to RTP setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DefectiveDave Posted April 5, 2014 Author Baller Share Posted April 5, 2014 Here's a picture and the red circles approximately mark the location of the ski inserts.: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted April 5, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 5, 2014 Plenty of meat there for a set of slots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DefectiveDave Posted April 6, 2014 Author Baller Share Posted April 6, 2014 @BMG73, it is an old KD. The binders are worth more than the ski itself. If I go with inserts and screw something up then I'm out like $50 tops. However, the water temp here is going up rapidly and I might make it out this week, I don't have time to screw it up. :-) I'm going to mull over this until tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Dickey Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Drill the plate and use SS fender washers to spread out the clamping pressure of the screws and help prevent flex cracking of the plate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dchristman Posted April 6, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 6, 2014 You should be able to get inserts from D3 if you want to go that route. I got some from them last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted April 6, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 6, 2014 Ahhhhh, yes if the ski is that old put inserts in. I know around me, Ace Hardware has brass wood screw inserts. We've used those for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted April 6, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 6, 2014 the best thing to do is get a new ski and then the hole pattern will align up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skialex Posted April 6, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 6, 2014 Why don't you just use wood screws and if after a period of use the screws become loose then use wood inserts. By that time you might have changed the ski! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DefectiveDave Posted April 8, 2014 Author Baller Share Posted April 8, 2014 I went ahead and used brass inserts from Lowe's (probably the same thing @ShaneH mentioned at Ace), so far it appears to have worked well. I should know if it holds up this weekend. If not, time for a new ski. Thanks for the input! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DefectiveDave Posted April 8, 2014 Author Baller Share Posted April 8, 2014 Also, the loctite marine epoxy really locks the inserts in there. I tried a test insert on a piece of wood. I stripped the threads and snapped the slots trying to get the insert out after the epoxy cured, no luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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