Texas6 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Perhaps I'm too spoiled on good water, but we have minor tree protection and our lakes tend to get pretty breezy during the spring and fall months. While I realize all water time is beneficial in some way, I'm curious where others draw the line and decide to wait for better conditions to ski? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted April 5, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 5, 2014 Depends on the site and the protection. Lengthwise 15-20 mph yah I'll give you a pull if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ski6jones Posted April 5, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 5, 2014 I'll take a crosswind before I'll take winds at those speeds head/tail. Less than 15 and I'm in whatever the direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef23 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I should probably ski more when it is windy in case it is windy during a tournament but I usually don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doonez Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Crosswinds are so much harder to ski in than head/tail IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Cam Posted April 5, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 5, 2014 15-20mph+ down our lake makes it unskiable as we have no protection in that direction, but we can manage that with a crosswind it is only the gusts that can make it a bit scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashman Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I thought 20mph was too windy until I skied at pickos- I'll ski there on lake 2 all day long with 15-20. My new home site... Not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bojans Posted April 5, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 5, 2014 The option of "I grab the jumpers or trick ski" was not provided Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwr Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I'll slalom in just about anything. I would probably skip the 20 knot tail jump practice. Unless I hadn't gotten to ski in awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted April 5, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 5, 2014 It is situational. We used to ski at a roughly 60 ac airport lake that ran with the prevailing winds. in the spring it could be a bear, but if you wanted to ski, you had to do it. For me it boiled down to safety. If I really though I might get hurt I wouldn't go. Having said that, you would be surprised at what you can run in the wind. After the first couple of passes it seems the boat kinda "knocks the chop down" a bit. I had a tremendous amount of fun boat judging a collegiate out there back in the perfect pass days. Gary Weideman from Houston was driving and we were swinging +80-90 in the head wind and -60 average in the tail. You would think no one could run a pass right? Seems that Ian Trapp and Brad Priekulus finished 1-2 with scores at the far end of -39. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadW Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 10mph is the limit at my site. Above that and we're approaching white-caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SkiJay Posted April 5, 2014 Members Share Posted April 5, 2014 I draw the line at well developed white-caps both for my personal safety and to avoid battering the livelyness out of my ski unnecessarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrB Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 East wind at 10 mph is our limit. West wind at any speed is OK. Head/tail at 10 mph gives us at least half a course to ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 At our site, that kind of wind from any direction will cause whitecaps. After 2 surgeries from skiing relate injuries, I now always lean in the direction of safety. If I skied at a site where the wind didn't affect the water so much, I'd probably ski for training purposes. When you live on a private lake with glass conditions on many days, it is hard to get motivated to ski in crappy conditions, although it would be beneficial for training for tournament preparation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Than_Bogan Posted April 5, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 5, 2014 I find value in nearly anything. But I will give up if it becomes clear I cant get through my opener. I'm amazed to see folks who prefer cross. Crosswinds are so damn difficult. Always learn something on those days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted April 5, 2014 Administrators Share Posted April 5, 2014 Two wind speeds in Bakersfield. 3 mph from north or 50 mph from south Support BallOfSpray by supporting the companies that support BallOfSpray California Ski Ranch ★ Connelly ★ Denali ★ Goode ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ MasterLine ★ PerfSki ★ Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroovyGrant Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I'm so close to an OTF at any given second that I don't need the added benefit of white caps coming over the tip of the ski to ensure a spectacular crash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edbrazil Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Once again from back-back: Supposedly, Wayne Grimditch's dad would look out on the lake when the conditions were adverse, and tell him something like "Ah, tournament conditions!" And, then he would go out and ski. In the Olde Daze, at Cypress Gardens, they put on ski shows in about everything short of tornadoes. And, before they had the massive tire barrier there, whitecaps were a normal condition. I'm sure that people like Lynn Novakofski have many stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Bruce_Butterfield Posted April 5, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted April 5, 2014 Depends on the site, but you would be surprised how well you can ski if you just suck it up and get after it. At my site I have skied in 25-30 and just short of white caps. Sometimes miss the first pass or 2, but after adjusting I can get within a few buoys of normal. It is a huge advantage at tournaments with tough water conditions and you think it's nothing unusual. If it was easy, they would call it Wakeboarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted April 5, 2014 Administrators Share Posted April 5, 2014 The real question is the amount of chop. The texture of the water is what makes the difference to me. Wind speed is totally different than water texture depending on how protected the water is. Support BallOfSpray by supporting the companies that support BallOfSpray California Ski Ranch ★ Connelly ★ Denali ★ Goode ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ MasterLine ★ PerfSki ★ Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorskier1 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 15 is about my cutoff point. Below that I will ski - season is short in MN. Above that, it just isn't fun anymore and no one wants to ski with me anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted April 5, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 5, 2014 The wind isn't the issue on down the lake, we white cap above 15. I like cross winds, it makes me focus more on what I'm doing. We also have decent cross wind protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas6 Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 I agree @Horton, the texture is the ultimate driver and protection helps dictate texture. 15 is about the max I like to deal with in any direction out here because we have very little protection. More than that and I generally ski terribly and work far harder to do it. If I could somehow negotiate a 5mph head wind both directions my average would greatly improve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jipster43 Posted April 5, 2014 Members Share Posted April 5, 2014 We travel 40 minutes to get to our club, so it has to be really blowing before we give up the ghost. However, our lake has very little wind protection so anything over 15 makes for some dismal passes. All in all It's pretty darn fun to run a sweet pass in high winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller teammalibu Posted April 6, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 6, 2014 In Dallas they dont start measuring till it gets over 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted April 6, 2014 Administrators Share Posted April 6, 2014 @rico need to work on your english Support BallOfSpray by supporting the companies that support BallOfSpray California Ski Ranch ★ Connelly ★ Denali ★ Goode ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ MasterLine ★ PerfSki ★ Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bigtex2011 Posted April 6, 2014 Members Share Posted April 6, 2014 It's true @teammalibu. I've got to ski with him many times here in Dallas. We all get used to skiing in crosswinds 20 to 25. The water stays in pretty descent shape but you definitely have to stay with it when heading into the wind. Timing is everything. At Dean's Lake, they are professional wind skiers. Head Tail a ton. I go up there with my crosswind prowess and get schooled on head tails. It's all good.. CS over and out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Cam Posted April 6, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 6, 2014 Skied my 1st set today in a 15mph crosswind, just as I was getting in the boat for my 2nd the wind turned to this, went home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XR6Hurricane Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I'm in northern Illinois. A lifetime of boating, skiing, fishing, motorcycling, and hiking has taught me one very important thing: If you wait for good weather, you'll never go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The_MS Posted April 7, 2014 Members Share Posted April 7, 2014 I will usually time my sets around the winds. Early or late if need be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted April 7, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted April 7, 2014 I just go ski in the Gator hole on Deer point or lake two at Pickos when the wind is up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeprunc Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Our course is pretty sheltered, will ski in anything below 15mph unless its due west. Tides seem to be a bigger issue for us than wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRY Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 As many have posted above its really what the water surface is. If its white capping inside the 55 I won't go out on my ski. With white caps I find the ski wont rotate properly in the turn and will do crazy pitches and stops due to "holes". White caps typically form between 12 to 15 MPH but ski lakes are so small the caps often don't come up with quartering or cross. 15 is a lot more than most people think, a solid 15 blows chairs and anything else light not tied down away. But 15 is great for double trap on my cat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller teammalibu Posted April 7, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 7, 2014 @bigtex roger that CS at Cottonwood the wind will blow your hair!! In Dallas itl blow your ski off the dock! cant wait till the next set! @MS if you wait for it to get under 20 here you won't ski much, when you comin down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntx Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 @teammalibu the key in dallas is all about wind protection. Some pretty good options if you know where to look. With a south wind marine creek has great protection. Deans can be brutal with a south wind as @bigtex2011 said. I am pretty sure tons of skiers would love to be able to ski at the level of those boys. Dean, chad and the two Steve's are pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAJ0004 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Lake Latonka gets 6 inch high whitecaps at 15 MPH and above. If it is coming out of the south I can manage 15 off at 34MPH. 36 MPH would be suicide.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members auskier Posted April 8, 2014 Members Share Posted April 8, 2014 as someone who skis 36 and weighs around 150lb water condition is much more important than wind. I can deal with the timing issues etc, but when it feels like my ski is sitting 1" deep because of chop, its not worth wasting the gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The_MS Posted April 8, 2014 Members Share Posted April 8, 2014 @teammalibu every time I get a weekend, its cold down there. If the wind is blowing at a major tournament, bet on the Dallas skiers. They dont look at the wind speed charts, they just meet at the lake and ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skoot1123 Posted April 9, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 9, 2014 Beggars can't be chooser's....but if there are whitecaps - then I probably don't ski more than 1 set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted April 9, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 9, 2014 If I drive all the way to the lake and find crappy conditions I will be skiing at least 1 set. If you don't practice in the tough stuff how can you compete in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBD Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 Isn't it time to come up with a Baller's wind index? We can't seem to be able to trust thermometers for temps so we probably can't trust an anemometer for velocity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller chris_logan Posted April 9, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 9, 2014 @PBD - careful. you'll get a panda for that kind of thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntx Posted April 9, 2014 Share Posted April 9, 2014 The ability to ski in wind, is directly related to the amount of "wind protection" you have. We have predominantly south winds. We designed the lake to run east and west and have a tree line on the south side. A 30 MPH south wind is still very skiable. You do need to adjust to the wind on your body, and treat each buoy as a head or tail wind depending on the direction. Pulling long or short. The water condition, is a non factor under this example. Now move that same 30MPH wind from the east or west, and we are pretty much toast. We do at certain times of the year have to deal with the sunset or raise. Usually less than 20 min. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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