Baller PurdueSkier Posted March 29, 2014 Baller Share Posted March 29, 2014 I am sure this has been discussed before but can't find it. I am looking at purchasing a boat with the plan to repower and ad ZO. I have the info on the repower but The question is what other issues or concerns should I have with a 2500 hour boat? Boat is a 2002 197. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Wish Posted March 29, 2014 Baller Share Posted March 29, 2014 I'd call Russell and ask him. Can't get any closer to that knowledge then he would have. http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?topic=Search&category=Comp_Boat&postid=27183 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller PurdueSkier Posted March 29, 2014 Author Baller Share Posted March 29, 2014 Thanks. I already have talked with Russell and considering that boat as well. Just looking for additional input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jjackkrash Posted March 29, 2014 Baller Share Posted March 29, 2014 The repower is the big one, other than cosmetics, which you can see looking at the boat. Replacing an interior of a boat can be pretty expensive but the interior will either look worn out or it won't. Are you going to drop in Bob Tail or something less of a repower? IIRC a Bob Tail pretty much covers all things mechanical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted March 29, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted March 29, 2014 What are you going to re-power with? and what year boat? some hurdles depending on boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalWaterSki Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I was literally in this boat 3 weeks ago..I picked my boat up dirt (DIRT!) cheap... I bought it with the intention on rebuilding it... I just loved the TSC1 hull. ... I have a 1999 Nautique with the GT-40 with around 1700 hours.... Interior was getting replaced, exterior was getting updated, so I was in a position to do a few things with the motor. Option 1 was to swap with the Excalibur, Option 2 was to rebuild the GT-40... I did some serious searching on the differences between the 2.... I had test driven the Excal, loved the upgrades that I could do to that engine... but loved the low end on the GT-40. I called my engine guy and started chatting with him about the situation. He has built some beautiful engines for me before.... From stock to wild... His opinion was to rebuild the GT-40 with a bit more "punch" to it. I pulled the trigger. We went through 3 cams before I was happy with the "lump," then had the whole thing ported and polished. I'm taking the boat out this coming weekend... first time in the water since the overhaul. Gotta take it out of state as it's still snowing here. My advice, drive the Excal... then think long and hard about what you want to accomplish from the boat and how much you want to spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DW Posted March 31, 2014 Baller Share Posted March 31, 2014 @SocalWater: out of curiosity what cam specs did you settle on and what was wrong with the first two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodltg2 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I would suggest purchasing a different boat if your going to go through the effort of a re power. that is unless its a smoking deal too good to pass up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalWaterSki Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 @DW - The first 2 were just way too lumpy. Think Eliminator Picklefork...it was awful. I believe he just sent my cam over to Comp Cams and had them make me a new one, mine had some wear apparently. So I believe it's stock, but with a fresh grind. I will double check for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skier2788 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 @SocalWaterSki would have been pretty sweet to have done the excal and ZO. Why not go that route? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalWaterSki Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I really liked the way the GT-40 drove.... I felt the Excal was going to be a ton of extra work for not enough gain. That was really the only reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skier2788 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Makes sense. Was just curious because when I was shopping for a new boat my biggest thing was it had to have an excalibur in it so I could put ZO on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalWaterSki Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I'm planning on doing the Star Gazer Upgrade, Z Box and Multi-Line Display as part of the next stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bojans Posted April 2, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 2, 2014 What is the cost of a repower? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted April 2, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted April 2, 2014 Depends on what you are repowering. ever seen American pickers? or gas monkey garage? It is all about the deal you make and what may or may not be available for parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsmith Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Jody is the man for a brand spanking new PCM drop in or he can build a unit for less. Well under $10K (maybe under $9k?) for a new PCM 5.7 and substantially less if he builds it (if I remember correctly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted April 2, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted April 2, 2014 Re-powering a older boat can be financially a ideal way to go especially when the boat is paid for. GT-40/5.8 Ford, GM 5.7 LT1/LTR Marine parts are starting to become NLA and obsolete. late 90's inboards still ski on par with what is on the the market today, a well kept 90's (early 2000's) boat re-powered with today's powerplants can keep skier on the water and in the sport somewhat economical especially when their is a $25K difference between a nice updated older boat and a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsmith Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted April 2, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted April 2, 2014 One of the the stumbling block's of a re-power and adding Zero Off is working with ZO's ordering policy's. Hopefully after this last go around they figured they need to stock a few units rather then build to order and tell you it will be 4-6 weeks before you get your unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAJ0004 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Would a PCM Excalibur 343 be able to be retrofitted in a 1994 Ski Nautique? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted April 3, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted April 3, 2014 @GAJ0004 Yes very nicely. Would really wake that boat up. We have installed a EX330 in a 92 SN the boat runs an honest 50mph. Also equipped with ZO . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsmith Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I'd love to find a 1998 -2001 SN with a blown engine on the cheap and have Jody re-power with the EX 343. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller liquid d Posted April 3, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 3, 2014 Betty Lou is my repowered 97 /zo included (by Jody) and it's become my favorite boat...I think I like it better than my 07. You can switch back and forth skiing behind them with ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DW Posted April 3, 2014 Baller Share Posted April 3, 2014 @Socalwaterski: thanks, it is very easy to miss the importance of the off idle and low rpm acceleration needs of a tourney boat. You have to stay pretty mild to have a great all around cam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAJ0004 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 @Jody_Seal, Nice!!! The extra speed would be useful since I do a lot of barefooting. I have the PCM 1:1 tranny. I would assume a new tranny would be needed too unless my current tranny can be attached.. That is good to know that it would work considering the price of a new boat. It would actually be quicker out of the hole than a new boat.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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