racerdjs Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I currently own a 2011 CC 200 CB and l am seriously considering ordering a new Mastercraft Prostar. I am being cautioned as I am hearing second hand that an aggressive short line skier can pull the boat side to side on the course. The new Prostar is a huge improvement but does not track as well as the CC 200. I have had 3 Prostars starting the 2002 and my Nautique is my first CC. In my mind, I can't believe that with Marcus Brown heavily involved in the design that they would green light a boat that does not have great tracking. Are these comments from other brand loyalists? Your thoughts will be appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RazorRoss3 Posted March 25, 2014 Baller Share Posted March 25, 2014 I have not personally driven one but skied 18 sets of slalom behind one over spring break down at Bennett's ski school and noticed a very consistent pull while behind the boat, and I wasn't exactly skiing light and right. When I asked the instructors who were driving they said it tracked great down the course. As far as aggressive short line my 3 @ 32off best of the week doesn't quite meet that mark so I can't say much but at 28 I was playing the "how low to the water can I get my shoulder game" towards the end of the week when I was getting tired and the drivers said that I wasn't pulling them around at all (and I'm not what you would call a light weight individual). Can't say from personal driving experience but I liked the pull and the coaches liked how it drove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 9400 Posted March 25, 2014 Baller Share Posted March 25, 2014 I've been driving 1 for a few months and I am very impressed with the tracking. It actually tracks so well I had to get used to it and learn to drive a little differently. To me it's easily the best driving Mastercraft in the last 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerdjs Posted March 25, 2014 Author Share Posted March 25, 2014 By NO means am I even close to being a short line skier. I am lucky to run several 28's at 34mph in a season. However, I pull several ski partners who are short line skiers in our group who participate in tournaments as well as the Nationals and don't want to adversely affect their training efforts. One partner runs 38. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted March 25, 2014 Baller Share Posted March 25, 2014 It's not as locked in as a 200. But way better than the 197 it replaced. It does require more input than the 200. But it's a world class boat driving wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregDavis Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 If you can drive Both boats, ( a 200 and a new MC ), same day, same skiers, same lake. Make your own decision. Obviously, most cc owners are going to tell you the cc 200 is the best, and the MC owners, are going to tell you the MC is the best. Make your own decision, be careful who you listen to. Other things to consider, dealer , price, resale, quality, record for dependability, Engine ( PCM vs others), etc.etc. etc. If you were to commit to purchasing a new boat, I have a 2013 Nautique 200, and there is a 2014 MC. on our lake. I would be glad to offer a challenge. you pull 4 skiers with the 200, pull same 4 skiers with the MC. Same day, same skiers, same lake. You make the call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerdjs Posted March 25, 2014 Author Share Posted March 25, 2014 Greg your test would be the ultimate test. I usually do not ask for opinions in a forum but find most here seem truthful and realistic. There seem to be very few haters here and that is a relief. When I traded from Mastercraft, the Nautuque dealer brought out a 200 and left it for a day or two and we decided. There are no Prostars available for this kind of sales promotion. From what I have heard, there is no need at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorskier1 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 It will be interesting to see what skiers prefer. The 200 is very locked in on path. Sometimes as a skier it feels better to me if the boat and driver are "with me" a little more, meaning that the back end is moving some. Looking forward to ice out to give my new ProStar a workout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skierjp Posted March 25, 2014 Baller Share Posted March 25, 2014 I drove the MC this weekend at 2 speeds, 1 skier at 30 mph starting at 15 off and ending at 28 off. The other skier 36 mph into 38 off. Sorry to say But the MC doesn't drive or track like a CC. I've owned 13 MC's and 15 Nautiques Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted March 25, 2014 Baller Share Posted March 25, 2014 The 2014 MC is definitely something you can compare driving-wise with the SN 200. The 197 is not. As @ShaneH implies, the 197 was not a nice boat for slalom drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdarwin Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 @OBI like to call it driver participation...nothing wrong with that So, that's how you ran 38 at Cottonwood last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mheinz39 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 i've driven one. drives a lot like the centurion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ozski Posted March 25, 2014 Baller Share Posted March 25, 2014 Hows the spray and the wake @34 / 36? compared to the 200? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted March 26, 2014 Baller Share Posted March 26, 2014 I have never had difficulty pulling a strong Shortline skier with a 197. If the new ProStar is better that will be great. The correct craft is on rails. Tracking n wakes for big 3 wud seem to all b great. For me the game changing features on the prostar are so well thought out in terms of interior layout, bow hatch, ski racks, a convenient drain plug, walk thru rear seating, floor space, Bimini set up etc. can't lose on big 3 top offerings right now... Pick your favorite flavor n ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcslaloms Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Dave, I think the best solution is for you to buy a new MC, but keep your 200. That way I get to train behind both brands. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Dickey Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I pulled a couple short line 36'ers this weekend and had no issues whatsoever. Tracking is perfect and IMHO, as good as a friends CC200. Both skiers (one skies OM 110) had great things to say about this boat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted March 26, 2014 Baller Share Posted March 26, 2014 We're supposed to get a pull behind the PS on April 12th, but I'm not sure we'll have water here in WI yet. From going through it in the showroom, we came away very impressed with all its features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerdjs Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 Marcus Brown called me yesterday and we had a great conversation! I am so glad he was involved in the design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOODESkier Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 @skierjp has the correct statement in my opinion. Have driven and skied behind the new mastercraft. I would buy one in a minute if the price was right, but I do not believe it drives as nice as the Nautique 200. Centurion, Nautique, Mastercraft, and Malibu YOU CAN'T GO WRONG WITH ANY OF THEM. I am equally happy behind all of them. If I am driving, I would choose the Nautique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller blakeyates Posted June 13, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 13, 2014 I drive both boats in tournaments around GA. Let me say that MC has made improvements but the tracking doesn't match that of the 200. Regarding buying decisions on both boats, you must look at the entire package....everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorskier1 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Drives great, I found myself over correcting at first. It really requires very small inputs to be a good boat path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SkiJay Posted June 13, 2014 Members Share Posted June 13, 2014 When I'm skiing, I don't care about features, price, looks, or fuel efficiency. All I care about is an accurate pull. My wife drives for over 70% of my skiing, so selfishly speaking, tracking and driver comfort (happiness) are the top two features any of the top four boats have to offer. I love the new feature-rich, great-skiing PS, but I'll be sticking with my CC 200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted June 13, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 13, 2014 @racerdjs I'm not sure if you've experienced the new PS yet, but we found after testing it that we're not moving from our 200 anytime soon. As mentioned, it's by far the best PS in 20 years, but we still prefer the 200. If you're on public water, you'll immediately notice the MC hull still has the kidney bruising ride over rollers. I can only speak to the 5.7, but it had a fairly pokey hole shot compared the Excal. That's probably correctable with a different prop though? The space and layout can't be beat, and materials are typical top-notch MC. Being an MC fan since early childhood, I wanted to walk away thinking "I have to have one", but it wasn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jordan Posted June 13, 2014 Members Share Posted June 13, 2014 One note of caution here boys. You have to remember that this is the first year of the new Prostar's production. When the previous 190 came out in 1992, they wound up adding hook to the hull, a different rudder and a number of small tweeks that made the boat significantly better. It's the same story with the 200, and the Centurion. A number of changes have been made to both boats since their introduction. I have also read a number of comments about tracking, the riding on the rail feeling that the 200 gives. Remember that feeling comes at the expense of gas consumption. Finally, we have become so spoiled with these boats...they are all pretty fantastic at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gginco Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 We have had a 200 at our club since the start of the 200 revolution. We also are onto our 2nd Carbon Pro in our Club. We have a TXi as well. So far, I have only driven the new PS pulling 32/35 off male skiers. The PS and Centurion are similar and not difficult to drive with neither having a notable edge over the other IMO. I'd give driver ergonomics to the PS over the CP but that's about it. The 200 continues to be in a tracking and driver experience class of its own. With all that said....put all 3 in a hat and you won't go wrong with the one you draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kstateskier Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Its been my experience that some Prostars drive really good, and some drive really bad. But for some reason every TXI,LXI i've ever driven drive really good (and all the same). And every CC after the TSC1 hull drives really good and all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The_MS Posted June 13, 2014 Members Share Posted June 13, 2014 My thoughts on the PS from my 2 sets this weekend are that it is the best ZO pull I have had since ZO. It also has a very comfortable passenger seat with some nice room between the engine box and seat. I did not drive one but interior comfort and lay out get my vote over the 200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorskier1 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Layout is first rate. Acceleration seems to improve with break in. I'm at 28 hours now and it is getting up to speed noticeably better when I pull Mitch at 36. The pull feels awesome. Agree with @MS. Nicest ZO pull ever, and that screen interface can't be beat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerdjs Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share Posted June 20, 2014 There is nothing I dislike about the Prostar. Excellent gel coat and very crisp color lines. Everywhere I look, it seems as if it was thought out completely. The ski racks, Bimini Top, gages and Zero off operation just to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SkiJay Posted June 21, 2014 Members Share Posted June 21, 2014 The new Prostar - A hot new Camaro with lots of cool features, designed and built by GM. CC 200 - A solid performing 911s that's a utilitarian version of sexy, but it's design, build, and performance are all Porsche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted June 22, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 22, 2014 Kinda bad news today. On a fairly short setup, straight in to the course from starting dock, the PS just would not get up to 36 quick enough and had to be pulled. They've been holding tourneys there for 18 or so years and this was a first. Didn't drive it myself, so no other comments. This being the third different PS I've seen over the last three weekends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted June 22, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted June 22, 2014 Lake 38 had their inaugural Slalom tournament Yesterday and a 2014 PS pulled all of the first round. Two different drivers, one a seasoned senior the other a second year Assistant. I did the mapping and setup and rode as boat judge for the first half of the round. My thoughts on the little Pro Star is that it does what it is designed to do. Comfortable interior, Well thought out cockpit, and a acceptable ride. I rode with the seasoned Senior As boat judge and he drove the boat effortlessly. I talked to the other driver who drove all 12 of the men 5 and he said it drove very nice and he had no complaints. Lake 38 is short set up however more a tight set up from the west end, Power to 36 was not stellar but aqueduct for our needs. Most everyone who skied 22 off (my self included) said the bump was not a issue. I have not experienced a non 22 bump since the 97-01 Ski Nautique. Their were a couple PB's the first round and every one who skied that rd agreed the boat does not have any negative impact through out all the line lengths that was skied. looking forward to my time behind the wheel as an event driver with this product! I will hook my Slalom rope up to this boat anytime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Broussard Posted June 22, 2014 Baller_ Share Posted June 22, 2014 When you design a hull with so much wetted surface area, you're going to run into problems with power. Take a look at the Nautique 200. Even with a 6 liter engine it struggles pulling 200+ feet jumpers with AWSA props. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E_T Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Time to go to superchargers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiboat38 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Walton a short lake???? It's 2250 feet...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted June 23, 2014 Baller Share Posted June 23, 2014 Well, I said fairly short. Shorter than some but lots longer than some. Just trying to be kind to MC. How does something like that happen? Supposedly with years of R&D the greatest thing comes along and several instances of getting pulled from tournaments for low power.? ! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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