ropeworks Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Does skiing with an Anti-Roll (ARS) handle and/or a smaller diameter handle alleviate elbow pain? A skier who has been experiencing elbow pain ordered a handle from me and he wants me to string it up in the Anti-Roll System and he went with a smaller diameter, from a 1.00 to a .930, in hopes of eliminating elbow pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas6 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Not sure about smaller diameter, but anti-roll and radius certainly do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam man Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 .94 dia radius handle, clincher or Radar vice gloves (dowl and strap to transfer load to wrist) and #1 thing to do ...... Use a flex bar every day to strengthen muscles around elbow and forearm. Google flex bar, order the black one if you can find it. I've battled elbow issues for last few years and this has finally cured my issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted January 18, 2014 Baller Share Posted January 18, 2014 ditto what @Texas6 said, agree on ARS and Radius. I have heard that a larger diam handle actually helps. You say tomato.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klindy Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 What's worked for me is varying the diameter occasionally. I have two different diameter handles (I prefer a 1" diameter) and I switch between them every few days. For tournaments I'll use the 1". Seems to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted January 18, 2014 Baller Share Posted January 18, 2014 I do the same Keith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghibli Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I find my elbow pain is related to taking "hits". No hits, the elbows don't bother me in the morning. Anybody else have similar experiences? Thought about changing handle, but then I thought not skiing to the ball would be a better solution, for me anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted January 18, 2014 Baller Share Posted January 18, 2014 Why take hits in practice? Practice to eliminate hits. Toss the handle when you see a bunch of slack in the rope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RichardDoane Posted January 19, 2014 Baller Share Posted January 19, 2014 I only notice the ARS difference in deep water starts, after that the non-ARS feels the same, +1 on the not taking hits in practice, ski smarter IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropeworks Posted January 19, 2014 Author Share Posted January 19, 2014 AB, it made more sense to me that going to a larger diameter versus a smaller diameter would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller lpskier Posted January 19, 2014 Baller Share Posted January 19, 2014 A small diameter handle is a cause of elbow problems. A wide diameter handle will relieve some elbow stress, but it is harder to hold on to. A radius handle may or may not help. Changing your grip (if left hand was up, put left hand down and vise versa for the right hand), but the transition to the reverse grip can be awkward. I would recommend two things now if you are skiing: first, get up with both hands on top of the handle, and get a green Thera-Band Flexbar and follow the instructions. $18 on Amazon. If you are out of season and not working out (and if that is the case in January, that raises a different discussion all together), and you've tried the other suggestions without success, see your orthopedist regarding PRP Therapy. I had it this fall for a wicked bad elbow that I had been dealing with for about three years. Problem solved, but I was reasonably inactive with my upper body for six weeks. Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lathompson Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I ordered the radius handle with anti-roll, and dropped from a 1.0" to .93". Wife and I have used radius handles from Brenda or Masterline for years and never had elbow problems. But as we shortened the rope this past season more than ever before, we started taking more hits and both developed tendonitis - hers on the outside (tennis elbow) and mine on the inside (golfers). Had to end our season a month early. I am using a BandIT brace, which looks funny but really helps. Also using a green therabar and doing recommended stretching / therapy - not helping so far. I keep reinjuring the elbow when I forget to wear the brace and lift something heavy. Now I am 2 months from the start of the season and still having pain - getting concerned. Smaller diameter handle might end up being a mistake, but a 38/39.5 off skier that is a friend and neighbor suggested it because it helped him, so we are giving it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam man Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 The primary reason I go with a .94 handle is because I using the Radar vice gloves.....need a smaller diam handle with these gloves. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted January 19, 2014 Baller Share Posted January 19, 2014 Anyone having elbow issues should seek out an experienced active release technique practitioner. Plug your zip code in on the ART website and look for someone that has is experienced in golfer and tennis elbow. It got me back on the water and also helped my friend with his shoulder impingement that had him on the dock. http://www.activerelease.com/providerSearch.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted January 22, 2014 Baller Share Posted January 22, 2014 I had issues last season went to a bent handle with a bigger radius, problem gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The_MS Posted January 22, 2014 Members Share Posted January 22, 2014 Pull ups and chin ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas6 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 @MS is right on the money with that comment. I had terrible elbow issues several years ago and a workout regimen that is laden with pull-ups combined with a bent handle and an overhand grip for deep water starts, has completely eliminated the issue for me. Don't get me wrong, I still feel slack hits and try to mitigate them as much as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted January 22, 2014 Baller Share Posted January 22, 2014 and if all of the above doesn't get it done, see the comments on ART. I did all the other stuff, including demi-patch therapy (anti inflammatory being injected with electric stimulus), ASTYM therapy, which helped me get 50% better. The ART got it done. Try this before you get cut open! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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