cragginshred Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 The last 2 months of the past summer I began really getting on the front foot with flexed knees and ankles. this began to stretch my soleus (muscle under calf) resulting on a sore achilles that persists. Has anyone had this and tried a heel lift or just allowed the rear heel to come up more in the boot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted December 12, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 12, 2013 I'd like to see some new video of you skiing because you really should never need to drive your knee ahead of your front big toe. And that's not not a lot of stretch of the achilles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted December 13, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 13, 2013 Agree with @ShaneH. Regarding flexed back knee, search for @Horton's comment on straighter back leg. Sounds very unnatural but one of the best advices out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted December 13, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 13, 2013 I would love a straighter back leg. Front leg too! Bowlegged...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef23 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Spend time stretching, the calf, rolling the calf on a roller or with one of the sticks and rolling under the sole of the foot up under the heel on a golf ball. All of this will help relieve the issues with the achillies. I do agree with @ShaneH and @ral that unless you have tremendous flexibility issues this shouldn't be a problem. I am stiff as a board and don't get achillies problems from skiing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragginshred Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share Posted December 14, 2013 @Chef23 the the origin of the soleus muscle is below the knee thus when the knee is flexed the soleus is being stretch not the gastroc (calf). The mechanism of injury is clear to me (a physio) -a prolonged stretch on the musculature takes it to it's tissue to max tolerance/threshold The result is stress occurs to the anchor point- the tendon/achilles. Tendons by design do not stretch and when they are stressed they get irritated hence the 'ittis'. Same exact thing with the elbows. So I agree with the gentle stretching to both the gatroc and the soleus along with sub taylor joint mobilizations. My question for this thread was 'has anyone used a heel lift to compensate for the prolonged flexed knee/ankle position of a rear foot? I will look for Horton's article on the rear foot. A huge issue for me this past year was finishing the turn with a straight rear leg and the ski wants to wheelie, so agreed it makes no sense, but I will check it out and watch some of his videos! Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragginshred Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share Posted December 14, 2013 At 04' and 30" the glide pre gate shot you can see how bent my back leg is, knee does not appear to be too far forward. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLDIqEpENVc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted December 14, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 14, 2013 Just as I suspected. You need to straighten the back leg and grow about 4-5 inches taller on your ski. It's putting your butt back, your shoulders forward, causing you to drive your knees far more forward than they need to be, and putting more pressure on your rear foot. Try and think about squeezing your butt checks together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragginshred Posted December 15, 2013 Author Share Posted December 15, 2013 Anyone re call the thread where Horton spoke of this? Any video to see it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted December 15, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 15, 2013 You can see the knees drive forward and your body compressing at the finish of a number of onside turns. Like 4 on your opener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gregy Posted December 15, 2013 Members Share Posted December 15, 2013 I agree with Shaneh but I wonder if it could have something to do with boot spacing. I spread mine out some a couple of years ago and my hole rear leg from hip to calf started hurting. I use open toe boots and have my toes touching the rear of my front but, that's what works for me (but I do wear size 13 shoes also). To expand on what Shane is saying. Think about how much more effort it takes to stand in a half seated position vs standing tall (stacked). As a PT I think this will make sense to you. You can stand tall and straight all day but try standing bent over with your knees bent and you'll be tired in minutes. When your bent over and get in a that semi-seated position there is just a lot more stress and strain put on the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted December 15, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 15, 2013 What he ^^^^ said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragginshred Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 Makes sense. Bad feedback from fellow skiers or more likely me doing what they were telling me incorrectly. Achilles still sore, but able to climb yesterday! 67* in Cali today (high of 4-* one week ago) means maybe some Delta skiing soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted December 16, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 16, 2013 See pic and compare. This would be the only point in the course where a mere mortal should be able to imitate well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragginshred Posted December 17, 2013 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 Touche' ral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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