Baller ForrestGump Posted November 30, 2013 Baller Share Posted November 30, 2013 Here's a bunch I took after we unwrapped our '14 Pro Star. Driver's position is fantastic. Driver's seat is awesome. Bimini is so simple. Jump seat is nice, in that it folds down flat to the floor. Ski racks are fantastic. Our weather has been crap lately so we'll just wait til after the Houston boat show in January to put it on the water. Maybe. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted November 30, 2013 Baller Share Posted November 30, 2013 That's awesome @ShaneH. Color scheme is perfect - Let me know if you need a driver after the boat show:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted November 30, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted November 30, 2013 @Daryn We'll have it out for people in Houston to ski behind at some point. Probably take it to Cypress for a few weeks and leave it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LakeOneSkier Posted November 30, 2013 Baller Share Posted November 30, 2013 Is that a fire extinguisher or a bottle of NOS under the engine cover? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted December 1, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted December 1, 2013 That is a sweet boat. I typically prefer more white (especially above the rub rail and below the waterline), but I have to admit I really like this color combo. How about a little video when you start running some sets? The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller brody Posted December 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 1, 2013 If you ever want to sell it significantly under market value.......:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SkiJay Posted December 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 1, 2013 Sweet color scheme, especially if you want to be matchy-match with your read and black A3! But I pretty much can't imagine a worse place to put a fire extinguisher. You'd have to stick your face into the flames to get it if there's an engine fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted December 1, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted December 1, 2013 It's not a fire extinguisher. It's the fire bottle for an automatic fire suppression system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Dickey Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 @ShaneH Did you you order the back seats? How about the bow lid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted December 1, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted December 1, 2013 We did. But neither are available yet. They'll ship later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I5boi Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 It's so roomy... Do I get a PS or 200? I like them both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted December 1, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted December 1, 2013 @shaneh - I thought you ordered a blue boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted December 1, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted December 1, 2013 We changed it, Richard. @15boi It's ridiculously roomy. You could pitch a tent and camp out in between the engine box and gunnels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bulldog Posted December 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 1, 2013 Beautiful boat!!! "Do Better..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E_T Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 Looks great! Those seats might get a little warm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted December 1, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted December 1, 2013 Actually, they don't in our opinion. MC went to that material 2 years ago and the black, from our experience in hotter than hades Texas, as a 2nd or 3rd color is no hotter than any other colors. The previous vinyls, yes. But not the current ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Roger Posted December 2, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2013 The trailer needs some design change, but the boat is great at both ends of the rope. Drives much better than last years boat and that pesky trough that started at 35 and in is gone. I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted December 2, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2013 It's supposed to get into the 70's tomorrow. I'm off of work. You sure you don't want to drop it in the water for a run? I could drive down to H-town... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Fine409 Posted December 2, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2013 Just curious, but are they planning to offer the Prostar with a tower? Not that I'd want one...more or less just surprised I haven't seen a picture of one with a tower yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted December 2, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted December 2, 2013 A tower wasn't on the order sheet when we ordered. But it was a temporary order sheet. I'll check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted December 2, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted December 2, 2013 @Shane: great looking boat. I hope the fire bottle is Halon, can you tell what triggers it. If not, you might want to swap it for a halon bottle but I would assume that it is already. Great idea IMO as the most common reason for a big fire (instead of a small one) in a race car is because the driver fails to use the fire extinguisher...for some odd reason, panic seems to set in during fire events:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted December 2, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted December 2, 2013 @DW It's Mastercraft's standard automatic fire suppression system installed on their boats using FE-241. It has heat sensitive burst disc on the bottle, an outboard heat sensor, and a manual release next to the driver. There is also a secondary hand held fire extinguisher under the passenger seat. Prior to the '14 Prostar, they only installed the automatic systems on V-drive boats. 197's got 2 hand held fire extinguishers. Believe me, I understand. I piled my drag car into the wall at 187mph. I was knocked silly. I learned my lesson about where the fire bottle's pyrometer needed to be mounted. One of the emergency team had to reach into the car and push the plunger attached to my roll cage as it didn't automatically release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted December 2, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2013 and the price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted December 2, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted December 2, 2013 Less than our like equipped 200 Promo. More than a malibu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted December 2, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2013 @ShaneH unhelpful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooSPX Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Believe me, I understand. I piled my drag car into the wall at 187mph. I was knocked silly. I learned my lesson about where the fire bottle's pyrometer needed to be mounted. One of the emergency team had to reach into the car and push the plunger attached to my roll cage as it didn't automatically release. @ShaneH , Thank God that never happened while I was racing. The only event was I got the car sideways at 135, thank God I was still on the stock 275/40/17's with 15" 305 MT DR's out back. I believe that the wide front tires helped me get control of the car quicker. I was probably a few feet from the right lane wall (racing in left lane). Of course it was only a mid 10 second street car. Thanks for the pic's of the new PS. I'm really digging it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted December 4, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted December 4, 2013 @shane: could you add a heat sensor on top of the engine affixed to the engine cover, that will most likely be the first area to get quite warm in the very unlikely event of a fire. I like the fact that it has a remote and manual trigger and FE214 is similar to Halon. I stepped out of a burning race car, took a few steps before I remembered, crap I need to hit the damn button. Swore a lot the following week while cleaning up the mess and doing all the nasty glass work on charred bodywork... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted December 4, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted December 4, 2013 When the engine cover closes, the fire bottle is top deck of block high. All of the fire bottles made today which have SFI, FIA, or USCG approval have a burst disk integral to their manifold that will release upon heated overpressure. I believe the requirement is whatever pressure 350 degrees produces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted December 4, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2013 Wow, that's a great looking boat! I'll probably get some thumbs down for this, but I don't think the pricing is out of line in the new Prostar. It's a premier item with a price tag to match. It wasn't that long ago that one could pick up a Boxster, Vette, 3 Series, etc for about $40 either. I think we as slalom guys are just having a hard time getting out of the late 90's / early 2000's mindset, when all of these items were way less money. Heck, I just looked at a '14 Grand Cherokee, and it was $50k. Time is passing, and prices are inflating faster than I'm aging apparently;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooSPX Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I still have the original sticker for my 91 Prostar 190. Back in late 1990, the boat stickered at 24,900. That was a fair amount of money back then. These boats never have been cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countymountie Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Very nice! I like the innovation. I seem to have issues with this website though and can't enlarge the photos. I tried using 3 different browsers. ????? Any suggestions? I can enlarge photos on my Ipad. Go figure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted December 4, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2013 @countymountie all you need to do is click the photo and it should open in a new tab/window. If it is not try hovering over the image and clicking the link in blue to the image itself. Should be something .jpg ect.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Kelvin Posted December 4, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2013 @shaneh Any insight on what they did for the trick wake? I had heard rumors of something similar to the hydrogate on the SN200, but the photos don't look like that was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted December 4, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted December 4, 2013 At this point, they have done nothing. It iswh it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countymountie Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 @MattP great call! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted December 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 5, 2013 @swc5150 - Boxster, Vette, 3 Series ?? That is quite a diverse group. The midlife crisis almost Porsche, a performance car and something that rich 16 year old girls drive? ducking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooSPX Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 HAHA! @oldjeep , so true. the Boxster should not wear the Porsche name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted December 5, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted December 5, 2013 Real Porsche's are designated by numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted December 5, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted December 5, 2013 I've had a lot of sports cars. And raced a lot of sports cars. I took a Boxster S around Road America faster than I could my C5 Z06. That little Boxster S is the perfect blend of balance and power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skoot1123 Posted December 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 5, 2013 As crazy as it sounds the Porsche Cayenne is a pretty agile machine as well. I'm not a race car driver at all - just love cars and have driven some pretty well handling machines. Porsche knows what they are doing - even in a "non numbered" car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted December 5, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted December 5, 2013 Even a Cayenne has a number. Type 955, 957, or 958 depending on the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted December 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 5, 2013 LOL, you guys are funny. Just pointing out price points, not starting a car discussion. If my M3 was intended for a 16 year old girl, she must be a driving enthusiast:) @DW Like the 924 or 914?;) @ShaneH Agreed... Anyone shredding a Boxster or Cayman must not have much or any wheel time in one. They have to purposefully under-power the Cayman so it won't outperform the flagship 911. And don't get me wrong, I love 911's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DooSPX Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 I will admit, I have never driven a boxster. I have driven a 996TT and recently a 997 GT3R around Sebring Int. Raceway. I also have driven a LS2 miata and a C5Z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jayski Posted December 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 5, 2013 Where's @SkiJay to chime in on the race cars??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted December 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 5, 2013 Well this thread took a left turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted December 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 5, 2013 @MattP - isn't the wall on the right? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SkiJay Posted December 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 5, 2013 Back to Prostar pricing, I don't think it's out of line at all. Sure it's high and I wish is was cheaper, but manufacturers need healthy margins or they can't maintain a decent warranty, they can't do the R&D to advance the product, and most importantly, they have to make enough money to survive the cyclical slumps in the economy. I'm sure glad Mastercraft had enough budget to develop the new Prostar! P.S. for @jayski I've logged lots of time at the edge in all kinds of Porsches. If Porsche didn't still have such strong demand for the 911, the Cayman would be "allowed" to post the superior numbers it's clearly capable of. It's a shame Cayman and Boxter are considered girls cars or poor-man's Porsches because they are both fabulously capable sports cars. All Porsche needs now is an Italian designer to put a stake in heart of that VW Beetle coachwork lineage once and for all! Winning at Sebring in the good ol' days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted December 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 5, 2013 Back to prostar pricing - seems ridiculously high. Why can Gekko make a boat for 1/2 that? At some point you are just trading on the name for the folks who will buy it because of the brand name on the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skoot1123 Posted December 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 5, 2013 @oldjeep - too many variables to list go into pricing. But if we took a very basic look at what goes into pricing it is this: Materials, Labor, SG&A, and last but not least Profit. Most of the variables could be lumped into one of these categories. @skijay said it succintly - "Sure it's high and I wish is was cheaper, but manufacturers need healthy margins or they can't maintain a decent warranty, they can't do the R&D to advance the product, and most importantly, they have to make enough money to survive the cyclical slumps in the economy. I'm sure glad Mastercraft had enough budget to develop the new Prostar!" One other thing - never underestimate the power of a good negotiator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller oldjeep Posted December 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted December 5, 2013 >One other thing - never underestimate the power of a good negotiator. And maybe that is it. Gekko pricing is more "honest". MC pricing might be more like buying a new truck, only suckers pay MSRP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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