Baller Wish Posted October 30, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 30, 2013 Ok, it's no secret that I love these cloves. I feel they are better then any glove of this type now or in the past by a long shot. But, I've had to work with Radar (who I feel did their best) to rectify something that took months to accomplish. But that doesn't matter here or why I'm writing this. After several pairs and exchanges, it is clear that the sizes for Medium Vice gloves are no longer the same. As you can see in the photos of last yrs model vs this yrs. The straps are significantly shorter and I cant even close the strap across the back of the hand. Today I tried on the large in the new style/model yr and they fit exactly the same as my mediums of last yr. Save yourself headaches and order large if last years mediums were snug but fit. I cannot speak to the other sizes but would rationalize that this would hold true across all sizings. I truly hope this helps skiers, venders and Radar alleviate return headaches. Photo is of last yrs and this yrs gloves both marked medium. I will add that in wearing the gloves last yr or this yr, do not over tighten the strap over the back of the hand. Make a fist, then close it. Should alleviate any unnecessary taring of the stitchings. They changed the color. I like it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsmith Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Appreciate the heads up. I need to order another pair. I can't imagine a customer discovering such a vast difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller scuppers Posted October 31, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 31, 2013 I ran into this exact problem - after tearing up two pair I had to switch to ML. When I can get a pair to fit just right the Radar's are much nicer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKSkier Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I also love the Radar Vice gloves - however, I have been having major issues with the palm material wearing through. I'm on my third pair in a year and after a 3/4 sets, the palm material is wearing through again just beside that palm strap. Are any of you having this problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Wish Posted October 31, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted October 31, 2013 @Scuppers it would be worth checking into these as the fit has obviously changed with the new model year. Not sure if they are available yet. Could not agree more on the superiority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsmith Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 OKSkier, same problem here. Palm, beside the strap, wore a hole quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKSkier Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 I'm glad its not just me - was starting to wonder. My buddy I ski with has the same problem. To bad, I still love the glove but its frustrating when you have to keep sending them back for replacements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted October 31, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 31, 2013 Get aqua seal and proactively put down a layer of it in the known wear areas. It works great and will outlast the other failures of the glove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Wish Posted October 31, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted October 31, 2013 @Oksker @ctsmith. Same here. The new model yr has added material (second layer) right at that ware point. Plus, not overtightening the strap across the back of the hand will slow that ware down. New material added should help a great deal. First set tonight on the new gloves. Will report back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKSkier Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 THanks great idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SkiJay Posted November 1, 2013 Members Share Posted November 1, 2013 Rats! I read this thread two days too late. The new Vapor Boas are a size smaller than last year too. It took three passes of hand pain morphing into hands-asleep before it became clear that they were not going to stretch enough while wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsmith Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Wish, give us an update on the Vice glove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Wish Posted February 26, 2014 Author Baller Share Posted February 26, 2014 Well, lets see, I've been using the new pair A LOT this winter. Far more then I have skied in past winters. 3-4 sets per week 8 passes typical. They have lasted 5 months and am just now seeing some where to each side of the strap in the palm. Two small holes smaller then a pencil eraser. Figure another month. Maybe 2. Fit is still good. Not tight, as new but not bad. All the straps are perfect with no issues with any of the parts. No special way I take care of them. Use em, hang em. So to me, aside from the sizing change, they are as good if not better then last yrs and still way better then ML. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ThePantsManCan Posted July 2, 2014 Members Share Posted July 2, 2014 Bump! I need to replace my Masterline Pro Locks. @Wish, Does the new Radar Vice glove have a Plastic Ring at the wrist or a metal one I was not able to use the old style Radar Vice Glove because of the length of the plastic ring (more like a square) that holds the wrist strap tight. It would intrude into the muscle at the very base of my thumb where it meets the wrist. I was hoping that if I got the 2014 Vice Gloves, and the D-Ring on the wrist had been changed to metal, I'd be able to bend it gently away from my "Thumb Meat" So, is it Metal or Plastic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Wish Posted July 2, 2014 Author Baller Share Posted July 2, 2014 Yes metal. And much larger DRing. I've had that same issue with the new gloves. The larges stretched a bit. Added liners and the problem was solved. Bending may help as well. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller slow Posted July 3, 2014 Baller Share Posted July 3, 2014 Be nice to see someone from radar chime in on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fehlindra Posted May 7, 2016 Members Share Posted May 7, 2016 Any update Vice -16 ? i have the white Medium one now shall i go up to large on the new -16 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Wish Posted May 7, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted May 7, 2016 I do not think any size changes from 2015-2016. But size changes YES from white/black vs gray/black. They do run smaller. Got 2 pair on order in Feb and they look and feel the same as 2015 which were all gray and black..no white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rodecon Posted June 16, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 16, 2016 I need to order another pair of vice gloves.......I currently have the white ones in XL....after reading this thread I am thinking I need to order the new black ones in 2XL? Anyone have first hand experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKSkier Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Hi @rodecon. I have always used the Vice gloves and the XL size. Bought a pair of XXL gloves last year and thought they were a little big at first but now love them. They are wearing amazingly - no wear areas etc with a half year of skiing on them. THinking that the looser feeling is easier on the gloves with less stretch stress etc. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rodecon Posted June 16, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 16, 2016 Perfect, thanks for the info @OKSkier ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted June 16, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 16, 2016 My motto on gloves fwiw: if you find a brand and model you like, buy a bunch. They change every year or get made by someone else and don't get made the same way. Better yet, buy the bunch at year end close out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted June 16, 2016 Baller Share Posted June 16, 2016 I am using XL Vice and have a new pair from last year as a backup. Good to know about the XXL @OKSkier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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