rodltg2 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 The Brazilians did it, seems like US builders don't see a demand or return on building one. http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b265/rodltg2/787214_39899c4d6739ec50ccd7a2e946a6bc49_jpg_srz_1052_555_85_22_0_50_1_20_0_zps523a224e.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b265/rodltg2/masterboat20590_zps0112ab32.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted October 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 23, 2013 That's the kind of boat most of use need! nothing big and fancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Wish Posted October 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 23, 2013 That looks like 1992-1995 hull. I may have my yrs off but you all know the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bulldog Posted October 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 23, 2013 Not enough bling for Joe smo buyer in North America. I like it!!! Too bad it would never even be built. "Do Better..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldjeep Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Can you get ZO on the new 30K Gekko GTS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtallweed Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Unless Malibu stopped this year, you can order a closed or open bow Response. There is a 2013 for sale on SIA. 90 inch beam 2450 pounds and a great ski wake. Not sure why Mastercraft and Nautique does not do the same thing. The R&D is paid for years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Wish Posted October 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 23, 2013 Bring back a basic 196 and see the 200 sales plumit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MISkier Posted October 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 23, 2013 So, they bought the old 95 MC 190 molds, designs, specs, and tooling and are building new ones with updated power plants? What is the pricing on that Brazilian MasterBoat and what could the price be if this were done in, or exported to, the US? Just because they did it doesn't mean it they aren't charging as much as a new technology, current model boat would be. As @bigtallweed mentioned, Malibu still allows you to (at least as of 2013) order a Malibu Response or Response LX at a much better price than the TXi. I have one that was well after Malibu had the Response and Response LX as their flagship/current model and had moved to the LXi. Mine is a 2009 Response LX and those boats were not even shown on their website with the LXi or other current models at the time. I think you could order it with their iBoat web app back then, but probably just through dealers now. It has updated the power plant and ZO. So, I would say there is one US maker that produces an older slalom tug with ZO. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted October 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 23, 2013 That's definitely a '91-'94 Prostar hull. I'm confused however...is this a boat produced in Brazil? If so, is it being built by MC, seeing how it has MC written all over it? A brand new, retro model of this boat would be awesome - if it could be kept around Gekko (20') pricing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Wish Posted October 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 23, 2013 @swc5150 actually look closer. I has MB written allover it. Sure does look like the same older font though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMLVMI Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 This came up on the MC forums recently. Apparently a company bought the 91-94 molds (and maybe the 205 molds too) and started a boat company. No affiliation with MC that I know of. I would love that hull with ZO for $30k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMITTY Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 pretty hard to beat the carbon pro!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller escmanaze Posted October 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 23, 2013 Anybody have any idea on pricing? Is it actually in that $30k range? When I saw Centurion come out with the carbon pro, I thought they were heading that direction, but then the CP turned out to be significantly more expensive and really not that much cheaper than the big 3. I got a malibu 2013 catalog the other day and it actually did still show the response and response lx. I wonder what the bu base price is on those. If the base price on the Axis A20 is $45k, it seems like the response ought to come in at even less than that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MISkier Posted October 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 23, 2013 I seem to recall the MSRP on the Response LX was about in the high 30s to $40K range. I don't know what the closed bow version was. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted October 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 23, 2013 You're not getting a current one cheaper than what's available in the US now. With the exchange rate between the brazilian Real and US dollar, those things are way overpriced. I've seen 08's for sale for $36000 US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ALPJr Posted October 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 24, 2013 Yep 91 - 94 hull. That's a nice looking boat. Could have purchased a mold, or splashed a MC. I have a nice 92 MC for sale for 8.4k. For about 90% of the skiers out there it's a tremendous boat. Flat wakes, handles like a sports car, easy on fuel, light on the trailer, looks good and sounds cool. The only issue is when skiers get past -38 there's some spray. I read about a slight mod they did to the spray flute on the MC pro tour boats of that era. Cleaned up the spray through -39. For a few bucks someone could put a ZO motor in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted October 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 24, 2013 They are expensive as a divorce... @Alberto Soares might have the actual price. But it is not 30 nor 40k... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted October 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted October 24, 2013 @wish We're both correct, as the MB 190 was the '91-'94 ps hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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