FrankS Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Hey guys, I am currently in the market for a new trick ski and I am considering the graviton. Considering how new it is there is not much info out there on how it skis and how it compares to other skis already out there. I was wondering if any of you has skied on it and knows how it compares to d3, quantum, goode etc... Any information would help. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SkiJay Posted August 14, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 14, 2013 @FrankS Jason McClintock tricked a winning score of 10,570 on it at the Canadian Nationals. http://distilleryimage8.s3.amazonaws.com/aca79536036b11e3ac5122000a9f14f8_7.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 14, 2013 Administrators Share Posted August 14, 2013 I only have a couple rides on mine but I am super impressed. BABE’S ★ California Ski Ranch ★ Connelly ★ Denali ★ Goode ★ Mastering The Art Of Waterskiing HO ★ KDSkis ★ MasterCraft ★ MasterLine ★ PerfSki ★ Radar ★ Reflex ★ SLines ★ Stokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankS Posted August 15, 2013 Author Share Posted August 15, 2013 Does anyone know where I can get one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RLW Posted August 15, 2013 Members Share Posted August 15, 2013 They have a lot of them at Nationals this week if you know anyone who lives near you that is here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted August 15, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 15, 2013 They have hard edges. Maybe some of the trick savvy people (Eric?) can tell us what the benefits/negatives are vs rubber edges??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 19, 2013 Administrators Share Posted August 19, 2013 I can tell you that i have not tricked more than 3 sets a year for the last 20 years. I rode the Radar Graviton again today & I made a flip first try. I think the first flip I have made since 1997ish. I tried a WL5F and just lost the handle on the landing. I will make next time. WOs and SLBs were all super easy. This ski is super fun. This ski is going to get me back into trick skiing. What does @EleeSki run? I am coming for him. He will have more on paper but I will do it clean BABE’S ★ California Ski Ranch ★ Connelly ★ Denali ★ Goode ★ Mastering The Art Of Waterskiing HO ★ KDSkis ★ MasterCraft ★ MasterLine ★ PerfSki ★ Radar ★ Reflex ★ SLines ★ Stokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted August 19, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 19, 2013 Can you answer my edge question then? Currently I have 3 kids on 2 trick skis. Will have to get another one relatively soon and the Radar comes in at a decent price. Would it be good for kids who are learning vs. D3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Monkstr6100 Posted August 19, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 19, 2013 Can't ind anything on radar site about it? Some special release thing? Not even on the market yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epyscs Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 @MrJones. Dont stress the edges too much. The soft edge skis can be fractionally more forgiving in my experience but only noticeable when I ski two skis back to back (I used to ride a D3 hard and soft for a while). Personally, I just switched to a Reflex Furtif and absolutely loving it (switched from Quantum & D3) @Horton, I know you are not a trick fag, but it would be amusing for you to do a couple of trick ski reviews! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted August 19, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 19, 2013 @MrJones my son has only skied a hard edged ski a D3 CX and it has been great for him as he progresses. I know @eleeski who knows a lot more about tricks than I do recommends one of the hard edged skis as good starting skis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted August 19, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 19, 2013 I'm so stoked that Radar is offering a trick ski! It is impossible to tell how a ski will feel by just looking at it. The Radar is getting good reviews from the couple people who have gotten to try it. Hopefully I will get to try one soon. @MrJones Rubber vs hard edge is irrelevant. It is just a way to finish out the separation between the top and bottom skins. The hard edge does have an advantage in being easier to mold in different edges at different parts of the ski. It also resists wear better. Rubber doesn't hurt as much when you kick it. Personally, I haven't liked past rubber edge skis much. The D3 hardedge ski (which is currently my beginner ski recommendation) skis best in the longer lengths - which can be a problem for little kids. The Radar might work well here but it is too early to tell. The Goodman and Reflex Trick Systems ski great small but are not my favorites for all around learning - size alone is not that important. @Horton You might be cleaner (really did I say that?) but I will score more. Judging is random anyhow. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 19, 2013 Administrators Share Posted August 19, 2013 @epyscs I made flip first try.... first time in over 15 years.... landed soft but popped the handle on WL5F first try in since almost forever.... that is the best review I can come up with BABE’S ★ California Ski Ranch ★ Connelly ★ Denali ★ Goode ★ Mastering The Art Of Waterskiing HO ★ KDSkis ★ MasterCraft ★ MasterLine ★ PerfSki ★ Radar ★ Reflex ★ SLines ★ Stokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller elr Posted August 19, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 19, 2013 @Mrjones - this is what I've been told as may son has progressed: hard edge = hands, rubber edge = toes, if only one ski honeycomb rubber edge (which is what we settled on). Toe tricks are very important early on. Now that my son is working on hands 5's, SL's etc. he is wanting to try a hard edge for hands. Also, as the skier progresses different lengths for toe and hand skis becomes more prevalent. We were also told not to go too small at the beginning - he is still using a 42 inch D3 that we got when he was <5' and about 65 pounds. He is now 5'10" and 125 and may want a longer hands ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted August 19, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 19, 2013 Thanks men. The two skis we have now are both 41" Obrien's that have been around a while but are in good shape. I bought a new Reflex from Andy at Nat's for the one ski that still had a pro wrap on it. I have a thick liner for my son and a thinner liner for my daughter so they can keep using the same ski at least through the fall/spring. Early next year I will try to find another used Reflex set up and maybe buy a Gravitron so all 3 kids will have their own trick gear. (BTW. Let me know if anyone has a kids sized reflex set up they want to get rid of.) Man, multiple events and multiple kids are expensive!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 20, 2013 Administrators Share Posted August 20, 2013 @MrJones dogs are a lot cheaper! BABE’S ★ California Ski Ranch ★ Connelly ★ Denali ★ Goode ★ Mastering The Art Of Waterskiing HO ★ KDSkis ★ MasterCraft ★ MasterLine ★ PerfSki ★ Radar ★ Reflex ★ SLines ★ Stokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted August 20, 2013 Baller Share Posted August 20, 2013 @horton and 3 legged cats are free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 20, 2013 Administrators Share Posted August 20, 2013 @MattP Cleo the cat is priceless BABE’S ★ California Ski Ranch ★ Connelly ★ Denali ★ Goode ★ Mastering The Art Of Waterskiing HO ★ KDSkis ★ MasterCraft ★ MasterLine ★ PerfSki ★ Radar ★ Reflex ★ SLines ★ Stokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankS Posted September 16, 2013 Author Share Posted September 16, 2013 I saw this picture that posted on instagram, have any of you heard anything about that jobe trick ski? http://instagram.com/p/eQlJsUIOFK/?fb_action_ids=10153294986530221&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map={%2210153294986530221%22%3A449771128471592}&action_type_map={%2210153294986530221%22%3A%22og.likes%22}&action_ref_map=[]# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankS Posted September 16, 2013 Author Share Posted September 16, 2013 Found this... apparently Jimmy Siemers is with Jobe now and was involved in designing the ski. http://www.waterskimag.com/news/2013/07/17/jobe-signs-jimmy-siemers/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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