Baller LeonL Posted June 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2013 You may call me crazy, and I may be. I just feel that my 196 pulls stronger at the same setting with R than it did with Q. Granted I started the season with R and had about six months to forget what Q felt like, but I've had to back off from C2 that I've used for four years. Has anyone else experienced this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chuck_Dickey Posted June 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2013 Isn't there a new Plus+ setting? Do you have the Plus+ engaged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted June 25, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted June 25, 2013 I've changed from C2 to B1+ and I'm liking that pretty well. It just seems that, perhaps inadvertently, in making the software change to creat revision R all letters are a bit stronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SkiJay Posted June 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2013 @LeonL If I understand correctly, B1+ is a faster more intense response than C2. Response time is (from slow to fast): A, B, C, A+, B+, C+. Intensity is (from low to high): 1, 2, 3, 1+, 2+, 3+. So B1+ comes on sooner and more intensely than C2. Apparently, you just like it rough =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chuck_Dickey Posted June 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2013 Isn't the plus designed for 220+ pound skiers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller klindy Posted June 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2013 @Chuck_Dickey I've seen 120 pound women do quite well with some of the plus settings as well. The additional settings offer a different pull. I suppose the expectation is that "heavier" skiers would like it better but I think it all depends on your objectives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Gloersen Posted June 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2013 any "+" setting under Rev R puts ZO back to pre-Rev Q mode; much stronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted June 25, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted June 25, 2013 Well despite all the good information, I'm still asking if anyone feels that the same setting, on the same boat, is different from Q to R? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Gloersen Posted June 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2013 Flashed the chip to "R" on the '09 196, not different at all if no "+", imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SkiJay Posted June 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2013 @LeonL I'm going with no difference. I had Q on my CC200 all winter long representing over 200 sets at B2. I upgraded to Rev. R in May, skied on it the next day, and noticed absolutely no difference at B2. Supporting this is the fact that according to Will Bush's presentation to USAWS, the algorithm for A-C, 1-3 did not change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted June 25, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted June 25, 2013 I did not notice any change when we installed Rev-R. We do see though when in plus mode overall times to be substantially faster all the way through the course. particularly with a light skier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted June 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2013 What I like about the Plus is it is stronger, BUT it seems to come on stronger slightly LATER...This has allowed me a mlli-second more time to get from the hook-up to the leveraged position...I have picked up several buoys because of this and think it is great. No change noticed with the regular settings on my CC200 6L or my ski partners CC200 5.7L..In fact both my ski partners did not like the plus and are back at C1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted June 25, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 25, 2013 @LeonL I did not notice any change from Q to R on my usual setting of B2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller LeonL Posted June 26, 2013 Author Baller Share Posted June 26, 2013 All in my head then I would guess. Thanks for the input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScarletArrow Posted June 26, 2013 Baller Share Posted June 26, 2013 I seem to get 16.93 and 16.92 consistent course times with the plus setting. Not that .03 is a huge deal, but I wonder if anyone else has this experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted June 26, 2013 Baller_ Share Posted June 26, 2013 @ScarletArrow. I have seen the same thing when a skier request the plus setting and they are not what would be considered a heavy skier. Can this circumstance be considered a advantage to a skier? How many new men3 are out their that would prefer to ski a firmer 34? could it be considered pattern driving if say a skier changes back to normal (non plus mode) at their hardest pass? At 36 mph I have seen end course times 03-05 with light skiers in plus mode. . “Humor is reason gone mad.” Marx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller JohnN Posted July 1, 2013 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2013 Skied R version for first time this weekend in a tournament, and it was the best that ZO has felt to me. Opened with C3+, then dropped to C2+ for the next pass and stuck with that both for the Nautique and the MC. Normally I go with C2, the + made it much smoother feeling, and I felt less hit from the boat. Like @Jody_Seal said, I pulled a 135 lb 14 yr old at 36 with C2+ and ran consistent 16.05s. 16.08 with no +. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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