S_L Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 With Spring on its way and most of us are waiting for the ice to go out its almost time to get on the water. What is the best way to get back into the ski season: put the course in and turn bouy at easy passes for a month or free ski for a month. The fear in free skiing is the bad habits are not as easily recognized with out bouys to remind you that you are doing a bad thing. Any thoughts or better methods to the madness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ThePantsManCan Posted February 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 23, 2013 Here is a method! Ski Bouys AND FreeSki! WooHoooooooooooooo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted February 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 23, 2013 ...a month? If my buoys were magically installed at ice out, I'd free ski a set or two and then be in the buoys. Most years I probably get 5-10 free ski sets in before buoys installed and skiing them. It's a busy time with putting in docks, lifts, buoys etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Brady Posted February 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 23, 2013 I am just looking forward to when i sink in the water instead of laying on top of the water...damn winter! Definitely will be free skiing for the first few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skihard Posted February 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 23, 2013 As a Canadain I have to say straight for bouys as I'm hoping to spend a couple mornings getting some coaching from Trent next month when I'm down in Texas working. Ice won't even be close to melting off the lakes up here for another 2 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Murrski Posted February 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 23, 2013 My plan this year is to do back-to-backs at regular speed (34mph - M3) doing Seth's whips drill. Probably do that for at least a couple sets followed by easy & repeatable line lengths (in the course). No ski tweaks until muscles are tuned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBLskier Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I free ski for 200 yards and then head for the buoys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller BraceMaker Posted February 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 23, 2013 That sounds like your lake is 600 feet from pick up to gates... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2odawg79 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 I will Start @ -28 and just shadow until I am very smooth and graceful from Pull out to drop. Then I will cut to -32 and -35 doing the same drill until I feel ready Mentally and Physically to start the whole Buoy Chasing/Counting Rat Race! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 It really depends on your evolution as a skier. I was a big advocate of free sking. However now that I have 40 plus years sking buoys I don't free ski too often.. I also don't take much time off either. When I'm working on a pass I do ski in front of the balls and go around 5 & 6 great for learning a new line. If you are a 35 or less skier, by all means spend some time free sking. If you cruise 35 1st day out, you might not be asking this question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted February 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 24, 2013 My ski lake had very low water at the end of the fall season. We got some rains (at just the right places) and the lake filled up quickly. All the buoys were a few feet under water. I got to take a January set with the local college ski team, and we just drove down the "trick course" path (kept the boat between 1-3-5 and the slalom boat guides) and just free skied. It had been years since I had free skied. Wow! What a joy!!! It was so nice to let each turn finish at it's natural conclusion. There was no need to rush anything. I could just concentrate on form, staying stacked, timing of edge change, timing of effort at the white water into the wake, etc. etc. My take-away from that set is, free skiing (on a private lake behind a tournament wake) lets the skier focus on form and build muscle memory of how things are supposed to feel. That muscle memory can then (hopefully) be maintained when the skier moves back to the buoys. The only significant change I'd expect on the buoys will be the intensity of the lean and angle at the white water. The edge changes, turns, hook-ups shouldn't change. I wish I could free ski more often! I have since thought about ways to make the skier buoys more easy to remove or hide... The most elaborate thought was a pulley system which could draw down the whole group of skier buoys until they were submerged via a remote controlled motorized wench system. The simplest solution was converting our skier buoys to a sub buoy setup with the ability to easily pull the surface buoys out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SkiJay Posted February 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 24, 2013 No need to submerge the buoys, just ski the course one boat-length early, a.k.a. shadowing the buoys. You are free-skiing, but with visual references. You can easily see if you were turning outside the buoy line and staying in rhythm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller SkiJay Posted February 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 24, 2013 90% of my skiing this winter was on a tournament lake, but free-skiing/shadowing the balls at -32 to -38. My total focus was on technique and I used video on every pass. Every time I skied the balls, my technique suffered, so I went back to shadowing. Over the past couple of weeks, I visited my two favorite coaches to get their help moving back into the course. BOTH of them said after my first pass, that it was by far the best they'd ever seen me ski (which I think translates into I don't suck nearly as much as before). My vote would be to do some video work on your technique while free-skiing before heading into the course this spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ToddL Posted February 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 24, 2013 @OB - no subs. Lake's max depth all over the slalom course is 7' when full. No biggie to "dive" for an anchor-line when a buoy is knocked off a clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2odawg79 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 @SkiJay, @Rich, You both Rock! I have been a Proponent of the Shadowing (and shadow related drills) for yrs. and have caught so much un-due, un-founded Critique from the Forum Crowd. -never slowed me down! You can only change the Truth with a Lie! ;-) Glad to See others Steppin' out of the shadows and puttin' it out there too. P.S. I do like to get completely out of the Course and Free Ski on Open Water as well! I think I might also Love to get an H.O. FreeRide for a little Stressless FreeStylin'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller PatM Posted February 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted February 24, 2013 Straight for the bouys at my opening pass for at least a couple of weeks to a month. Then the wheels come off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gsm_peter Posted March 10, 2013 Baller Share Posted March 10, 2013 I plan to start free skiing. Our season is short and it is important for me to quickly build up the muscles. I assume we will put in the boat in early May when it is really cold water (type 25F) Also nobody in the club likes to dive an put back the bois when it is that cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Waternut Posted March 10, 2013 Baller Share Posted March 10, 2013 I hope to free ski a couple passes before hitting the course but if the opportunity presents itself to ski the course first, I won't complain. I do think it's funny that all the northerners just want the lake to be liquid rather than solid and us southerners are waiting until it's warm enough to not have to wear a wetsuit...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted March 10, 2013 Baller Share Posted March 10, 2013 I like open water to start. Let's me work on skiing with good technique without worrying about line lengths and scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAJ0004 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I always ski in the open water. The lake I ski on is about 2 miles long and a half mile wide. I spin around at one end and drop at the other. I ski at 36 MPH 15 off and try to make non stop cuts back and forth the whole way up and down the lake. I go as long as I can until my whole body is absolutely screaming with fatique and soreness. When tired the next skier goes, repeat. Depending on how early we get out I do that for a week or two until conditions permit me to put the course back in. Then I run 15 off passes through the course until I have the endurance to ski 6-8 passes in a set, then start shortening the rope. I do that for about two weeks. If I get out in early April I am getting back into 28-32 off while still in my drysuit. The drysuit comes off when the water gets above 70 degrees. When free skiing I don't care how rough it is. It makes for better conditioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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