Perfect Pass upgrade - mechanical (servo motor) to dbw stargazer / gps reciever

[blacky1205]

Calling All PP Gurus, I have recently purchased a malibu 98 response lx (Indmar monsoon) which has PP digital pro version 6.4 with single line display. It wasn't working due to siezed servo motor. I have ordered a new one & will fit it this weekend. I was also looking at upgrading to a 2009 Stargazer (with v8.0 upgrade) and a multiline display. The only apprehension i have is its a DBW system. This leads to 2 fundamental questions. firstly, is Stargazer compatible with the older digital pro pp systems ? secondly, is it possible to convert to BDW if im running a mechanical servo/throttle kit ? I have heard some mixed reports on this . Thanks, Simon

[Chef23]

There are plenty of people running Stargazer on older boats with servos. I am running it on an 02 Response and I upgraded from an older system. That said I don't know if you can take a DBW system and run it on a servo boat. I would call PP and ask them they are very helpful on the phone.

[usaski1]

Again, PP would know for sure, but pretty sure you can't.. you could use the display, but would need a brain that was for throttle cable.

[Wish]

So if someone has a multi line display on a DBW boat, it CAN be used on a machanical??

[Kelvin]

@wish the processor boxes are different for DBW boats and Servo boats. I had a 2003 Malibu with PP and upgraded it to SG. It was an easy DIY project. I simply removed the old box where all the cables plugged in. Replaced it with a new box and plugged all the cables back in.

The new box was clearly stamped "Mechanical".

[Wish]

Was wondering about the display only. Currently have a single line but know of a DBW boat that went to ZO. Multiline DBW display taken out and unused. Can do a mod and locate it over the cup holder in my SN as seen on another thread (would like to see that pic again) . So would a DBW display work on a machanical boat ?.? Sorry, slight hijack of thread.

[thager]

@Wish You mean this?

[Wish]

@Thager yep that's it!! Is that your creation? Love that! And it would be my first choice over a dash mount. Never use the silly cup holder anyway. So I know PVC was used for the structure but what's it rapped in?

[Inboardfix]

@wish mechanical modules and DBW modules are not the same and the display plugs are vastly different.

[thager]

@Wish Just a little matching gray vinyl sewed into a tube. Turn it inside out, spray pvc with 3M contact cement and unroll vinyl onto the pvc tube. For more info shoot me an email thager10athotmaildotcom.

[Wish]

@Inboardfix hmmmm? So that would not work then.....bummer. @Thager will do if I end up with a display that's usable.

[thager]

@Wish Inboardfix helped me do the ZO conversion. If something could work he would know.

[rodltg2]

. No way I would use the cupholder. I hate holding my beer between legs. Had to that on my brendella.

[Inboardfix]

@wish What boat (manufacturer, model, yr) is the multi-line dbw display out of? If CC is it Standard Ed or Limited?

 

[ForrestGump]

@rodltg2 USAWaterski and Global Marine have you down on the list of troublemakers who they will never give a driver rating too now, with that statement! ;)

[rodltg2]

I meant Gatorade

[blacky1205]

thanks heaps for all this guys. So in summary, I have purchased a 2009 DBW stargazer module with multiline display & gps puck which is out of a 2008 LXI malibu response. If i buy the latest module from PP to upgrade my 6.4 v mechanical, will this be compatible with the multline display & pgs puck out of the DBW kit ? Ultimately this will save $500 for new gauge & gps puck !

[eleeski]

@blacky1205 Fix your PP. Forget Stargazer and get a working switch. At least the feel can be set up to feel like a tournament pull. Fancy display? It's the feel of the pull that matters.

@Thager My boat needs a chilled cupholder more than than a fancy display. Of course a big letter display might be quite useful for my aging eyes.

Eric

[east tx skier]

@blacky1205, yes. You can use the display and puck with the Master Module (mechanical) that you purchased. You mentioned 8.0. If you want a Zbox, you will have to buy that separately. I wasn't sure if they had the 8.0 software out yet without buying the Zbox.

[thager]

@eleeski Eric, you just like drilling holes in your boat! I elected not to drill any holes. Couldn't get any ZO displays to fit the smaller old PP hole so I had to get creative. ZO let's me drive with one hand and hold a cool one with the other anyway!