Members The_MS Posted January 4, 2013 Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 loaded up Team Edition with 113 hours, one owner and in show floor condition. 36,900. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted January 4, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 4, 2013 On consignment, too, no sales tax. www.sonwatersports.com I bought a consignment boat from them a few years back and had a good experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jedgell Posted January 4, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 4, 2013 That's a nice boat. Those 196's are holding their value, it's a lot of money for a 5 yr old boat and single axle trailer. Local promo sold his 08 Team in 08 for $39k, looked just like this boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted January 4, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 4, 2013 Wow, and I paid $27k for my '08 LE with around 100 hours on it. Makes me wish I would've kept it another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The_MS Posted January 4, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 Brad B had a promo just like it in Minn also. I used to get my Promos through SON and I help them move product when I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The_MS Posted January 4, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 4, 2013 We paid 32K for our 08 in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted January 4, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 4, 2013 The gap between a 2010 200 and a late model 196 is rapidly closing, especially when comparing a CB to CB. Being in marketing, this would tweak my interest if I worked for CC, as there's obviously still a market for them. Not trying to start a "bring back the 196" discussion, just making an observation! Beautiful boat Mark, love the colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jedgell Posted January 4, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 4, 2013 Are any of them selling in the mid $30's? I've seen a lot for sale one the $31-34 range, I hope the actual sell price is a bit lower. I'm wanting to upgrade to ZO Nautique, might have to buy an older one and do the conversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted January 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 5, 2013 The resale is driven by the high price of the 200 upgrade. Price should be lower on a '08. If interested would drop a fair offer in there understanding it may be turned down. Ya never know. I didn't think my offer on a consignment boat would be enough and it worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted January 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 5, 2013 Dave, Save yourself a bundle. Buy a nice 02 and convert to ZO. Its so easy even a tool challenged MD couldn't mess it up! Plus I will help. You will love the pull!! : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted January 5, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 5, 2013 Thanks @thager. I like that plan but I'm not buying just yet. Finances a little tight as I decided it was time to pay off my student loans...only took 13 years :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregDavis Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 sold my Cream Puff, 100 hour, 2008 for $35,500 in 2008 Sold my perfect 100 hour 2009 in 2009 for $35,500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The_MS Posted January 5, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 5, 2013 http://www.sonwatersports.com/used-boats/2008-Ski-Nautique.html Here is the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregDavis Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I'll be selling my 2013 this summer for a great price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The_MS Posted January 11, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2013 sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jedgell Posted January 11, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 11, 2013 Any idea what the final sales price was? I'm looking for a ZO 196, curious what they're actually selling for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The_MS Posted January 11, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2013 It was a consignment and went to a local buyer for 35,900. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdarwin Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntx Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 @jdarwin, I will second that. WOW WOW. I guess our 2009 is worth WAY more than I guessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodltg2 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Wow is right. I sold my 08 in 2010 for 29500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The_MS Posted January 11, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2013 Where are they when we sell our boat. Makes me think about putting the 09 up FS but then what do you buy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted January 11, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 11, 2013 Wow, congrats! Now I really wish I would've waited to sell my '08. I agree with OB, that's right in there with some 200's on the market. I suppose it does depend on what you want, and not everyone wants a 200. With an '08 selling that quickly for that kind of money, how can CC not see it would be a good idea to at least offer the 196 as an order only boat? There's obviously a demand out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The_MS Posted January 11, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2013 I wonder how many 200s they would sell with a 39-41k price point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfennell Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 All of them they could make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2oski Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 @jedgell Our clubs 09 is for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted January 12, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 12, 2013 We have a 07, ZO, Bimini, trailer that is one year old, about 940 hours, aftermarket stereo in dash. Maybe we should put it on the market? Are people avoiding the 200 due to gas/oil consumption? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The_MS Posted January 12, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 12, 2013 2 more listed on SIA today. That Blue boat is the prettiest 196 I have ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted January 12, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 12, 2013 Your former boat? I like the Orca one too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The_MS Posted January 12, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 12, 2013 Looks nice, dont it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted January 12, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 12, 2013 Yes it do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jedgell Posted January 12, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 12, 2013 At these prices I might just save up for another year or two and get a used 200. Or buy an older one and upgrade to zo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jedgell Posted January 12, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 12, 2013 @h2oski can you send me details on your boat. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted January 13, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 13, 2013 I like the SN kool aid, but for just a few grand more scroll down on SIA and 2011 Lxi with 83 hours. I can't swing either so moot point, but 196's are running overpriced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller dave2ball Posted January 13, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 13, 2013 The black and white 196 has 131 hrs on it and looks clean. This could be a great deal for some one who is in the market for a new 196. The blue and black is also very sharp. the blue has a little more pop to it. both look to be good well kept boats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted January 13, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 13, 2013 @AB It sounds like the Acme 654 may help 200 fuel consumption a touch? It's now the stock prop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The_MS Posted January 14, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 14, 2013 @6balls If it were a 2012 TXI maybe but I would go the MC197 route before the LXI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted January 14, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 14, 2013 @MS me likey the Txi, too. I did think though that the last few years of the Lxi were better than the early years due to subtle but meaningful tweaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted January 14, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 14, 2013 crazy pricing on 196s. I know of a promo '12 TXI that sold in November for $40k. Hard to justify $35-36k for a 4 year old boat that sold for $38-39k brand new. Geez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Inboardfix Posted January 14, 2013 Members Share Posted January 14, 2013 As the owner of an '07 SN196 w/6.0 and ZO it is very tempting to put her on the market at these prices. However, I don't want to be looking for a boat at these prices. Crazy pricing is well put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members skinut Posted January 14, 2013 Members Share Posted January 14, 2013 @ShaneH-You must have a great dealer because my 08 LTD new was no where near $38-$39 and I know my dealer gave me a great deal(or maybe my dealer was laughing all the way to the bank). I think my 02 LTD was close to that amount. Last spring I sold my 08(with tandem axle trailer) with 240 hours for $34,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted January 14, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 14, 2013 Well, I was talking about the promos. In 09, promo 196s were going for $39 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntx Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 @skinut, I know SEVERAL 08's limited that sold for the 38/39 number new. In fact I just sold one about a year ago for less than 25. Lots of hours on the motor but the inside and outside of the boat was in great shape. I think the asking price for a used 08/09 is VERY inflated. I also have a 09 with a ton of hours that is for sale for 25/26 range. Based on what I am seeing, even if someone put a new motor in, it looks like it would be a great deal. I think I remember Jody saying severa; months ago that a repower is about 8,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The_MS Posted January 14, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 14, 2013 The 196 is also a boat that has a proven track record for performance, small wakes and the size of the boat is appealing to many people on private lakes that do not need a barge for a tow boat. You will not see many more 36k sales of Nautiques. The fleet will age and hours will be added. Most of the 07s with ZO have had the ECM flash and that takes the hour meter back to 0. In the end, you get a top notch tournament pull for a lot less money. So if I can get an 08/09 196 for 33, that is still 10k cheaper than a 12 TXI or 197. How much are 2013 TXI and MC197s going for compared to the 2013 200s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdarwin Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 @MS - I was told a reflash of the ECM does not reset the hour meter. Depends on when the '07 was produced / version of ECM that it came with. Perhaps someone else can shed some light on that. I would understand if the ECM unit was replaced. I understood that 07's produced after March 2007 had a different ECM unit that could be reflashed. Prior to, the ECM unit had to be replaced to accomodate ZO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The_MS Posted January 14, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 14, 2013 You are correct. It is when you replace the ECM not flash. The early 07s and down needed the ECM replaced. It is like the 08 Malibus that needed to have the ECM replaced if you wanted to convert to ZO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted January 23, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 23, 2013 Another one just popped up, in case anyone's looking. I don't know who owns it, but looks sweet. http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php?topic=Search&category=Comp_Boat&postid=22153 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted January 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 24, 2013 ...and another: www.sonwatersports.com/used-boats/1997-Ski-Nautique.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorskier1 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I can't understand any of the pricing. While I'd love to have a ZO boat, I'm going to keep driving my 2005 PS 197 until it is well over 2000 hours (1100 now) with Zbox. Zbox isn't perfect, but it is close. Besides, I don't think it is the boat that will make me a better skier. Coaching, ski tuning and practice are my focus for 2013. I can't afford to blow money on a boat with soon-to-be two kids in college with a third two years behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted January 24, 2013 Baller Share Posted January 24, 2013 If I bought ZO it would not solve my issue entirely, anyway. Two guys I need to ski with if I am to have enough water time in addition to my primary partner run PP classic and don't compete. With that, they have no motivation to buy ZO and even if I did, I would be on PP classic in the range of 30% of my skiing. Given the cost, I sit tight as well. Kids college needs in 4-6 yrs, 12 y.o. and 7 y.o. vehicle will need replacing before too long as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The_MS Posted January 24, 2013 Author Members Share Posted January 24, 2013 Son also has this 07 for around 34k. http://www.sonwatersports.com/used-boats/1997-Ski-Nautique.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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