Administrators Horton Posted November 29, 2012 Administrators Share Posted November 29, 2012 Every year it is the same thing. I see this http://www.iwsf.com/wrl_1012/sl1012.htm and think I should ski some ELR events at 36 and get on the list. I never do it. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted November 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted November 29, 2012 Ristorcelli is such a bad man that he's ranked #1 and #28 in 35+. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jdarwin Posted November 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted November 29, 2012 Come on over in June / Sept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Jody_Seal Posted November 29, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted November 29, 2012 Shoot! I am on a world standings list! in the wrong age group, but their none the less! I feel I have arrived! Horton you could do a three week southern tour, between La and Florida in late may and early June you could hit 4-5 Record tournaments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted November 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted November 29, 2012 I plan on skiing some records this coming season. I don't care that I would be ranked like 300 somethings. Still would be cool to see where I fall, along with getting to ski behind some great tournaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted November 29, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted November 29, 2012 @MattP i will never let you forget your first tournament Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted November 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted November 29, 2012 @Horton thanks.. I will never forget it either. I'm just glad there is not video! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted November 29, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted November 29, 2012 FYI I want on the 36 mph list. I am on the old fart list Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted November 29, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted November 29, 2012 @horton - my farts are older than yours ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted November 29, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted November 29, 2012 my farts smell like dust Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Texas6 Posted November 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted November 29, 2012 Can I please take those last two comments and add them to "the best of" section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted November 29, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted November 29, 2012 No Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted November 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted November 30, 2012 It's not the age boys, but the mileage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 1, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted December 1, 2012 I would be at the bottom of the list but every year I think about posting some scorers and then summer happens and I care about my M3 ranking. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted December 1, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 1, 2012 @Horton you are .5 away from getting MM rating. Do that first, then worry about skiing against real men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted December 1, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 1, 2012 http://www.iwsf.com/wrl_1012/ There are other rankings than slalom! Speeds should be optional with 3 buoys (not zero and not six) for an overspeed. This way @Horton could train, ski and get IWSF scored at 58k while competing in his appropriate age division (or MM). Even if 3 buoys is not the perfect adjustment, at least it allows skiers to play more and see how the scores filter out. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 1, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted December 1, 2012 @MattP the reality is I need to just work on my 34mph ball count. Yes I know this is silly but it would be fun to be in the top 200 at 36mph. I looked it up and that is about what I think I could get. Ok never mind. This is just a random thought I have every darn year when the list comes out. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted December 2, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted December 2, 2012 So I was looking at mine thinking it would be higher. Then realized it's for class R or E or L or whatever they are. Still do not get the dif. Most tournies I attend are class C ($). So all I had was scores for FL States (abismal) and Nats (not bad). What was weird was not seeing any score for Regionals. I went, I skied, I did well. So what gives. Actually don't care that much but did find it odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted December 2, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2012 I would love to b back on the 36 list again...real man speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 2, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted December 2, 2012 @skidawg Well dude all you have to do is post some scores. Where I would be lucky as hell to crack the top 150 you could... let me look it up..... Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 2, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted December 2, 2012 @skidawg top 50 with without too much practice I think. RIght? That would be pretty darn impressive. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 2, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted December 2, 2012 @skidawg looking at your OM standings from back in the day.... You are a way better skier today then 5 years ago or am I all screwed up? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller bishop8950 Posted December 2, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 2, 2012 @Horton, I think/talk about skiing tournament 36mph again, but havent. It would be fun to confirm a spot on the world list. For me, I never ran 38a36mph in a tournament, but can now. I should tick that box at some point. For now, I am having too much fun chasing the Big Dawgs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller liquid d Posted December 3, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 3, 2012 do it this year, because time will take it's toll ...and one day you won't have that option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jcamp Posted December 4, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2012 If a Mens 3 skier wants to ski 36mph, can they just sign up to ski a tournament in Open? Or do they have to reach a certain score at 34mph in order to be considered an Open skier first? Basically, how does an old guy ski at 36 if he wants to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted December 4, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2012 I know this was talked about a while ago and I will see if I can dig up the thread, but I want to say you could ski as international men or IM? I know @triplett has had some experience with this. I don't remember if we came up with a solution. here is the old thread http://ballofspray.com/forum#/discussion/comment/73640 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 4, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted December 4, 2012 @skimom told me how to do it but I was not listening. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted December 4, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2012 @Horton when @skimom talks you should listen! She is the for lack of a better term the Jedi Master of all things waterski rules related! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted December 4, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted December 4, 2012 @wish I think you need 2 scores from 2 different sites. Not sure about the MW regional s being L as there was no boat video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jdarwin Posted December 4, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2012 Two scores from two different sites. If you have off-set towers for judging, video in the boat is not required. Only for R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted December 4, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2012 2 scores, 2 different sites, on two different days. In either an L, R or E tournament to make the world standings list. L is the lowest of the 3 and meets the standards to make the world ranking list. R is a record tournament that meets the standards to set world records and the world ranking list. E is elite and meets the standards for Elite list, World Record Capability and World Ranking List. All US Regional events are required to be a class L. Nationals will either be a class L or R depending on your division. If you ski both events you will be able to be listed to make the world rankings list for your division if you made the minimun requirements for that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted December 4, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted December 4, 2012 @MattP thanks for the explonation of ELR. So why then did they exclude my regional score? Now I am more interested in that answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jcamp Posted December 4, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2012 I'm not on the list even though I thought I had qualifying scores in two ELR tournaments (Pangaea Record and Eastern Regionals). So, I emailed Bob Corson and he checked with Dave Clark. Here is the explanation I got from Dave explaining why I'm not on the list although some of the people who skied at Eastern Regionals are: "The Eastern and South Central Regionals were both run the same way -- ie, the sanction was to "L" level, but individual events were run as class "E" rules default, with class "L" optional, by skier option. So those 26 performances that you received were just those few skiers who opted to "L" class." So, had I known that I needed to opt to class L, I would have been on the list. Since I didn't, I'm not, which is kinda a bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted December 4, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2012 @Wish that is why the current list is preliminary for the next 30 days. Each country has to re-check the scores they submitted to the ranking list for accuracy. If you think that there is an issue with the scores you have on the list email Bob Corson that compiles the list for the IWSF. bcorson@comcast.net and I would also contact the chief scorer from the event in questions along with your National body regarding the scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller elr Posted December 4, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2012 Class E <> "Elite" - results count only toward USA ranking lists. Need results in an L or R tournament for the world ranking list. Class E requirements are not as stringent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted December 4, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted December 4, 2012 Could the MidWest Regionals have been an E? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller elr Posted December 4, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2012 Heres the link the MR scorebook - http://www.usawaterski.org/rankings/ScoreBks/12M998CS.HTM#SlalomResultsM3. Looks like "E" was the default and some folks opted for "L". I had my son opt up when given the choice at SCR regionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Brady Posted December 4, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2012 Question. How good specifically does one need to be to get on the list? (i.e., 4 @38, etc. @Horton, yes, I have set a goal, yes it is unrealistic, yes it will take longer than I think.....but YES, it will happen!!!!! I am now the Rudy of BoS!!! And, the rankings is now my goal and field of play! Also, can someone please explain in detail how the tournaments work? The points, how many you need to do to count, etc. etc. Sincerely, Doug "I will be ranked" Brady! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted December 4, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted December 4, 2012 Ok, then how do you go about obting up to class L in a regionals or any Tourny that offers both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller elr Posted December 4, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 4, 2012 @Wish - normally choose when you register and it is very common to have a higher entry fee for L/R. In the case of last years midwest regionals it was in the electronic tournament announcement: Sched of Events: Please see www.awsamidwest.com for lastet information of schedule of events. Select Premier option for class E and Record option for class L when registering Comments: Please select Premier for class E and Record for L or R when registering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted December 4, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted December 4, 2012 @elr. Thanks for the info. Bummer. Live and learn.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted December 5, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted December 5, 2012 @brady - http://sanctions.dataweb.com/default.view here's the list of last seasons events in the Western region. Click on the "results" tab to see skier scores from that event. Your average is taken from your best 3 scores in the previous 12 month period. If you don't have 3 scores, then there is a % removed for the missing score/scores. The 2013 schedule usually comes out in March, so check it out for the events near you, and go ski, you'll find a great group of people at tournaments, and you'll be glad you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 8, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted December 8, 2012 Can someone dig around for a reading list (links) to answer @Brady 's question. Seems like the answer may belong in the FAQ. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted December 8, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 8, 2012 @Horton all you had to do is ask @Brady does this answer your question? The minimum qualifying performance to get on the world ranking list for an Open, Junior, or U21 Male is 6@28/36 and for a Female is 4@28/34; 35+, 45+, 55+ Male is 6@15/34 and for the Female list is 6@15/34 and 55+ 6@15/32 This minimun score needs to be skied on two different lakes in two different tournaments in a class L or R tournament. Ties broken by using all tournament site best performances from highest to lowest of 5 performances. The list will use your two highest performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted December 8, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted December 8, 2012 @MattP can we have that in feet and mph for Americans? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted December 8, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 8, 2012 Americans.... Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Brady Posted December 8, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 8, 2012 Thanks @MattP and Horton. Guess I will have my ass ranked next year... I'm coming for u @Razorskier1 and @6balls!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted December 9, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 9, 2012 @brady, come visit in the summer...we'll have some fun! Bring spare gloves and a spare liver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted December 9, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 9, 2012 @jcamp if you skied at Pangaea Pre-regionals and Eastern Regionals you didn't meet the qualifier of having skied on two different lakes. Both pre-regionals record and regionals were on the upper lake so you only had scores on one lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jcamp Posted December 10, 2012 Baller Share Posted December 10, 2012 Thanks @Chef23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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