What wing angle do you use?

[schroed]

I'm curious to find out what wing angle everyone uses and how often they change it.

[RichardDoane]

9 usually, but go down to 7 for the warmer water

[Horton]

I only use a wing an 1/2 the skis I ride.

So it is 8 or 9 or Nothing. Never more than 9. Never less than 7.

[MattP]

Never less than 7 never more than 9 for me. I go down as the temp rises.

[Drago]

7 almost always. Sometimes I change the size, but keep the angle the same

[Kirsten]

a question. I have been told that most skiers don't need a wing with their ski. why are so many skis with wings and what benefit do you see to having a wing

[Horton]

@Kirsten

Marketing. Until you are running 28 off at your top speed it does very little and may teach bad habbits

[Brady]

@Horton, be nice to her, she is my cousin! I have a question, what bad habits does it teach, and why doesn't it help you til 28?

[MattP]

A wing helps your ski decelerate into the turn after the edge change. When you are skiing at longer lines or skiing longer paths at slower speed one needs to keep their speed up and more constant. To do this you remove the break or wing. Leaving the wing on when you are working on longer lines and slower speeds trains you to pull to long to try to maintain speed into the ball and try to pull to hard out of the ball to speed back up when speed could remain more constat with out the wing.

@Horton chime in here if I went the wrong way with this.

[travnews]

I'm wingless

[BarneyLongden]

I use two

[Horton]

@BarneyLongden

 

Now that is hard core old school

[Horton]

@Brady

 

Basically a wing is drag. @MattP has it pretty right. On many skis I do not like a wing at all.

 

Wings also impact turn radius but again this is a crutch until you are a shorter rope and the angles are acute.

 

at 36 mph a wing is a must. At 34 most but not all skiers use a wing. At slower speeds I think it just makes more work for the skier.

[Brady]

@BarneyLongden. Why two wings? Are you coming across the wake that fast?

[Brady]

@Horton, so on my new SenateC that is hopefully being shipped, I should probably lose the wing, correct? I am at 34 and my best score now is 5balls at 15 off

[Horton]

You should try it without a wing and I would think that should be better for you.

[SkiJay]

7 to 9 degrees, depending on the ski, and less wing for really cold water.

[MattP]

@skijay why do you go less for cold! It's usually the other way around.

[SkiJay]

@MattP The short answer is that I tend to lose width when the water gets cold and "thick" because the ski decelerates and turns better in the pre-turn than it does in warm water. Less wing angle reduces both of these tendencies in cold water.

[Alberto Soares]

Usually 8.5 in my fast water lake, when I go to slower sites 8

[addkerr]

In cold water it gets harder to generate angle across the wakes, this makes you ski from ball to ball with no room or width. This is what creates the feeling of been fast and out of control. Once in cold water ski with your normal setting but concentrate on angle and width. The earlier and wider you get, the slower it will feel. I personally drop my wing to 8 degrees from 9. 36mph when it gets to 55F ish. Lowering the wing makes it easier to get width. So with the width comes better exit from the ball and more angle. Giving you space and time at the next one, making it feel a lot slower.

[The_MS]

7 on the Fusion, 9 everything else.

[Than_Bogan]

I had been 7 for years over a half dozen skis, but on the N1 I like 9 best so far. 7, perversely, seems to make it a little hard to get wide at -38.

 

I strongly agree on not using a wing while learning. A pre-28 skier should be entirely focused on building more angle and more speed. The day when you can build so much during that phase that you need some help to drop it or control it lies in the future.

[bigtex2011]

7 on fusion, none on A2....i've had mixed results with or without. i think without makes ur turn longer but less space in front of red buoys. i can scrap thru 38 with or without but cant get a start at 39 without. mostly because i'm clueless at that line length.

[bigtex2011]

btw. i do think technique supersedes a wing. mine is so so. lots of room for improvement

[luckyone]

no box for no wing .if i put one on will that assure me being able to run my top speed and shorten da rope?

[Marco]

I run 8 on my Fischer and Elite. Don't tweak much once I get things dialed in, and I don't change my wing in cold water. I did try no wing earlier in the summer but didn't like how fast I felt coming into the ball.

[Cam]

I have used 9 and 7 and no wing this year, I have run 28 off with 9 and 7 but never without a wing.

[Ham_Wallace]

8 or 9, Front Ventral.