Baller Than_Bogan Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 Let me preface this by saying I have almost no interest in socializing, and my weekends are over-constrained anyhow, so it's unlikely I'd be attending any hypothetical BOS event. And it's inconceivable that I'll be organizing one. However, I am very amused by the creative ways people have found to use Kickstarter, and I guess I think it would work for this, too, if somebody were really motivated to do it. For those unfamiliar, the basic idea of Kickstarter is that people give money to fund something that could happen, usually with the promise of something in return if it does. If enough money is collected, then the proposition goes forward. But if not, then everybody simply gets their money back. So for a BOS event, you would essentially be selling advanced tickets. If enough people bought in, then the event would be funded and happen and all the people who bought in would be allowed to attend. (Presumably others could also buy tickets later, probably at a higher price.) But the key is that this greatly reduces the risk. If not enough people commit, then the event is just cancelled. No harm no foul. Maybe try again another time. Anyhow, just a wacky thought. PLEASE don't use this as an opportunity to rehash past disappointments and force Horton to close another thread!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorskier1 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 If I knew far enough in advance that there was going to be a BOS tournament weekend I'd do everything I could to plan it into the schedule. What better way to meet all of the people we "know" through BOS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
behindpropellers Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Even if you can get the $$ it is more important to have the people to help put together the event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Than_Bogan Posted August 28, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 @behindpropellers I don't think I'm following. What I mean is IF some people wanted to try to make this happen, Kickstarter could be the ideal vehicle to give it a go. The idea is that if you get enough commitment in advance, then you do it. And if not, move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
behindpropellers Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 @than_bogan To make a tournament work you need two things: 1. Commitment of time from several people. 2. Money. Getting the money part seems a bit easier than getting the labor. Just my observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Than_Bogan Posted August 28, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 @behindpropellers. Ah, certainly true. However, based on several other threads that people have started (sadly most of them now closed), I think there are people who want to organize. I think the problem is the risk is so high, because people say they are interested but who knows if they will really come. The use of Kickstarter could eliminate that part of the problem, by getting actual paid commitments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashman Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 this is probably a stupid question but if I live in Indiana and am a member of the IWSA, can I ski in tournaments in other states? could you simply designate a tournament that is already organized as one that lots of BOS members are going to attend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAD11 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Depending on what you guys want, do we want to revisit having the Ballers Bash? You guys want a tournament lets do it. You wanna have a bake sale to raise money I'm in on that too. Whatever you want is cool. We had it down once and drought killed it. Thoughts? July, Aug of 2013? Let's schedule something and have some fun. Just need a date so I can get approval. @horton @shaneh @jdarwin @skidawg. Chime in boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_MS Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Bake sale sounds great. Mrs. MS makes great cookies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAD11 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 @ms Just have her bring those Delta cookies. Those are good and free if she grabs a handful and dumps them in her purse everyday after work. Very profitable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_MS Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 JD always gets a bunch and they are gone the next day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boarditup Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Perhaps if it were NOT a tournament, but a "fly in" where you ski and socialize until you go home. The goal is to have a "backyard" experience, not necessarily put up a score. That keeps the logistics down to fuel, boats, and food. That takes a lot of pressure off and the cash required would be for fuel and other consumables (porta-johns, etc.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 28, 2012 Administrators Share Posted August 28, 2012 Funny part is there were more visitors to the site last month than USAWS has members. Could be Baller Nationals. Quote Support BallOfSpray by supporting the companies that support BallOfSpray California Ski Ranch ☆ Connelly ☆ Denali ☆ Eden Lake ☆ Goode ☆ HO Syndicate ☆MasterCraft ☆ Masterline ☆ Pentalogo ☆ Performance Ski and Surf ☆ Reflex ☆ Radar ☆ Rodics OffCourse ☆ S Lines ☆ Stokes About Horton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerR Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 My business partner and I use a similar method to set up local events such as park concerts for small communities in Alabama and it usually works out great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members skidawg Posted August 28, 2012 Members Share Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Nats!!! I love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdarwin Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I'm game. Labor Day weekend 2013? This would give some of us a few weeks to recover from Nationals. I'm reserving my room at Chez Austin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorskier1 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Nationals would be cool. Everyone will need baller name tags with both Baller name and real name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 28, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 28, 2012 @MAD11 I'm down like a clown. You still got the number of that midget to follow @horton around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 28, 2012 Administrators Share Posted August 28, 2012 @ShaneH @MAD11 I am not sure I am still good with the midget thing. Quote Support BallOfSpray by supporting the companies that support BallOfSpray California Ski Ranch ☆ Connelly ☆ Denali ☆ Eden Lake ☆ Goode ☆ HO Syndicate ☆MasterCraft ☆ Masterline ☆ Pentalogo ☆ Performance Ski and Surf ☆ Reflex ☆ Radar ☆ Rodics OffCourse ☆ S Lines ☆ Stokes About Horton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jipster43 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Where are we hypothetically thinking of having this event? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdarwin Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 @Horton, @ShaneH @MAD11 - We'll just get Horton to follow Dirt around - same effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tfriess Posted August 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2012 Anything that has to do with BOS, I'm there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Wish Posted August 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2012 FL is a good location in that it can be made into a family vacation if that helps persuade the better halves to go along with this. I know if we make other plans around a tournament location, it makes it a mini vacation every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jipster43 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I'd love to visit Florida, but aren't you in hurricane season at this time of the year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 29, 2012 Administrators Share Posted August 29, 2012 So is this a serious tournament or a goof. 3 levels of skiing (22off and below => 35 off and below =>38 off and above) - 3 rounds and then a handicap final? Or Tequila Slalom? Quote Support BallOfSpray by supporting the companies that support BallOfSpray California Ski Ranch ☆ Connelly ☆ Denali ☆ Eden Lake ☆ Goode ☆ HO Syndicate ☆MasterCraft ☆ Masterline ☆ Pentalogo ☆ Performance Ski and Surf ☆ Reflex ☆ Radar ☆ Rodics OffCourse ☆ S Lines ☆ Stokes About Horton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Wish Posted August 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2012 @jipster43 hurricane schmericane... wheres your sence of adventure. I've been here almost 20 yrs now, 17 on the same lake. Little to no chance of that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller greghayes Posted August 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2012 @than_bogan - great idea around use of kickstarter! @horton - I think the answer is both, just consider it 4 levels of skiing...both serious and a goof all at once. I am on board to fund the "labor" on kickstarter and to try to influence sites in bako, as needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 29, 2012 Administrators Share Posted August 29, 2012 As I said in the last thread on this subject => I can not and will not organize this. I would be stoked to see it happen as long it is well organized and is not bad for the BallOfSpray brand. Quote Support BallOfSpray by supporting the companies that support BallOfSpray California Ski Ranch ☆ Connelly ☆ Denali ☆ Eden Lake ☆ Goode ☆ HO Syndicate ☆MasterCraft ☆ Masterline ☆ Pentalogo ☆ Performance Ski and Surf ☆ Reflex ☆ Radar ☆ Rodics OffCourse ☆ S Lines ☆ Stokes About Horton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller A_B Posted August 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2012 Vacation? That rules Toledo out..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auskier Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 baller world series... I might try and make it in 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skoot1123 Posted August 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2012 HMMM, if it's scheduled at the right time in Florida, I might be able to make it......otherwise Midwest is always good!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Wish Posted August 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2012 well, it would be a chance to get out of the bitter cold for most of the country if it's held in the colder months. Great months here are November, early Dec, late Feb and March (spring breaks). Can get cooler Jan and front end of Feb (relativity speaking). Countless man made lakes. A lot of pros down here training at that time as well and not really having any pressure so they might just join in for the fun of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAD11 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 "Baller Nationals" Ok guys, I'm willing to organize the event. Just need to all be on the same page. I will recruit @usa1 to help. Labor Day 2013? Austin, TX. Can go with the clown instead of a midget. Thinking Saturday 2 rd slalom. Can handicap a non sanctioned final however we want. Sunday non sanctioned events as we planned last year, potentially Tequila slalom, slippery slalom and a plank slalom. (We may have to switch to Vodka slalom as last time I had a vodka company sponsoring the event before we had to cancel. We will also enforce a no Powervest rule in the slippery slalom event. They are approved for in normal competition though.) Let me know and I will go to the HOA for approval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2012 @MAD11 - @Horton already has the clown hair covered, so I think we're golden. Not sure how @Dirt would feel with @Horton shackled to him all weekend, though. Scary thought for Dirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 29, 2012 Administrators Share Posted August 29, 2012 Event must not be geared toward the Original Ballers / MM55k guys. Must appeal to the wide range of skiers - at all levels. Quote Support BallOfSpray by supporting the companies that support BallOfSpray California Ski Ranch ☆ Connelly ☆ Denali ☆ Eden Lake ☆ Goode ☆ HO Syndicate ☆MasterCraft ☆ Masterline ☆ Pentalogo ☆ Performance Ski and Surf ☆ Reflex ☆ Radar ☆ Rodics OffCourse ☆ S Lines ☆ Stokes About Horton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2012 Or could run it like Diablo with 2 rounds against your awsa average. Then a handicapped final off of your 2 round qualifying average. And maybe have a seperate fun division for the people just getting into course skiing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RichardDoane Posted August 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2012 nothing against the Aquaplex, but the potential lack of water is a problem for that site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdarwin Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Make it a "team" event consisting of 4 skiers. Similar to a golf tournament, you would have A,B,C and D skiers. A handicapped system is fine unless your average is 3 @ 41 and your skiing against someone with an average of 3 @ 32mph. Creating teams of skiers spreads the risk / reward of high/low buoy counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RichardDoane Posted August 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2012 I'm in for ATL, I've got a buddy in Marion to visit as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Than_Bogan Posted August 29, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted August 29, 2012 And let the countdown to thread closure begin... *sigh* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashman Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 as a novice skier a "team" event sounds fun- I'm thinking that would generate some awesome flow of information between different level of skiers. Make it some place where I can either come in early for a few days of clinic or stick around after the event and get some coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdarwin Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 IMO, it has to be a multi-lake site. Otherwise, you're limited to about 30 skiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleRipper Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Will this tournament be for just ballers or open men and womens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_MS Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Lots of Ballers are pros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_MS Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 What is a Pro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Wish Posted August 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2012 Team idea sounds good. With a little time before the tourny, you could plan some "strategiery" with your team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Garn Posted August 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 29, 2012 Lame question but what is Tequila slalom, slippery slalom and plank slalom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 29, 2012 Administrators Share Posted August 29, 2012 @LittleRipper this event will be inclusive to all levels of skiing. That is very important to me. Quote Support BallOfSpray by supporting the companies that support BallOfSpray California Ski Ranch ☆ Connelly ☆ Denali ☆ Eden Lake ☆ Goode ☆ HO Syndicate ☆MasterCraft ☆ Masterline ☆ Pentalogo ☆ Performance Ski and Surf ☆ Reflex ☆ Radar ☆ Rodics OffCourse ☆ S Lines ☆ Stokes About Horton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klindy Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 The last post in this thread I posted was never commented on but there may be a few ideas worth considering - http://www.ballofspray.com/forum#/discussion/6057/would-you-be-more-likely-to-attend-nationals-if-you-did-not-have-to-go-to-regionals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleRipper Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 When will this tournament be held (season/month) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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