Spesh Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 I recently purchased a reflex front boot for my A2 as my previous system had no release mechanism, so was borderline dangerous. However, once the retention plate was installed with the boot attached, I noticed some lift at the front by the horse shoe. The place of purchase have told me that only the Reflex skis make use of the holes located at the very front of the plate, so I shouldn't worry if the plate bows slightly. But I thought I'd get a second opinion on here just in case. Pics below give better detail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted August 24, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2012 You should have gotten a piece of paper showing the proper place for the horseshoe based on the shell size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted August 24, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2012 That can be found here reflexworld.com/2010SITE/web/images/instructions/user_manual_reflex12_25_01_2012.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spesh Posted August 24, 2012 Author Share Posted August 24, 2012 I have the hardshell #12 which is the biggest one they do and appears to come with its own dedicated plate. So there is no option for mounting the horse shoe anywehere other than the intended location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller webbdawg99 Posted August 24, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2012 Are you referring to the boot moving under the horseshoe? Or the plate bowing up off the ski in the front? If you are referring to the plate bowing....its pretty normal. If you have a tendency to rock back pretty hard, pulling on the horseshoe, you can increasingly bend the plate over time. And that's a good indication that you need to change your skiing style! Someone I ski with has a steel plate that he bent in the front pretty bad over time. He just took it off and flattened it back out. Then over time, bent it again. I don't know if you can straighten out a carbon plate or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted August 24, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2012 I would not think that it is going to be an issue. Back in the day I did see some trickers silicone the plate down to help hold it in place. You could try something of that nature for the front only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spesh Posted August 24, 2012 Author Share Posted August 24, 2012 Ok thanks, that clarifies it for me. I don't tend to rock back on the ski, so can't see that being a problem. I only fitted the system last night, so I guess this is just how it's supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted August 24, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2012 If that how it was out of the box I would say there could be a problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted August 24, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2012 Does the boot push in under the horseshoe any farther if you just push it in or is it solid in there without moving around when the boot is in the binding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski.tyron Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 I know you most likely will not want to do this but I know a few skiers who have had the same problem and to avoid the plate bending more or even breaking they have drilled holes in the ski to use the front 2 slots on the reflex plate. They either then put self tapping screws into the ski or put inserts in. I know drilling into your ski doesn't sound like an attractive idea but it is a good solid fix! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted August 24, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2012 I would not suggest drilling into a modern ski.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller webbdawg99 Posted August 24, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2012 I second what @MattP said. You could put some double sided adhesive strips if you're really worried about it. But I'd say don't worry about it at all and just ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted August 24, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2012 Agree with the 2 sided tape. I used the black stuff (carpet tape?) under by old powershells to keep them from twisting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted August 24, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2012 I use two side carpet tape and then a large washer on the front screws. works great. plus the carbon plate will not bend or stay bent, thats why they use the carbon plate and no more metal plates. Deano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spesh Posted August 24, 2012 Author Share Posted August 24, 2012 Cheers for the input guys. Drilling into the ski is a definite no no for me, as I don't want to risk damaging the core and it will void the warranty. The boot is completely solid within the binding (there is literally no movement at all), so I think I will just ski with it like this for now and if problems materialise, I'll have to have a re-think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski.tyron Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 The double sided tape is probably a better option, the tape that reflex and AM use to mount their plates to their skis should work, it's called 3M VHB. Getting it off for binding adjustments may be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted August 24, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 24, 2012 @Spesh it sounds to me like you are good to go I wouldn't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spesh Posted August 25, 2012 Author Share Posted August 25, 2012 Ok, so I went out on the lake today, with the new binding. No problems at all in terms of functionality. However, I can tell that it is certainly going to take a few sets to get used to the reflex boot, over my old boot. The sensation of having a completely stiff shell over the foot was quite alien to me. I will probably have to play around with getting the placement just right too. I felt slightly stiffer in the turns. Still, I guess it's just a case of getting used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_n Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 @spesh I've been running the same setup as yours for 5 years, no problems at all. It's going to take you five or six sets to get used to it, but when you do you'll never look back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Zman Posted August 26, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 26, 2012 @dave_n since you have been using your reflex set up for 5 years, can you comment on how effective you think the release mechanism is for times when you stuff the tip and need the front foot to release? (if you ever do this) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Alberto Soares Posted August 26, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 26, 2012 @Zman - I have been on Reflex / R-Style for about 1 year now. Do not worry about releasing, the system works great, specialy in your case with RTP. Just relax and enjoy, by the way, it took me a couple o months to get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_n Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 @Zman I think everybody has stuffed the tip at some time, I try to avoid it if I can. The system has released every time it should have and never when it shouldn't have. After initial set-up, if it releases too easily, just tighten down the screw a couple of turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spesh Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 I had a few more sets on the Reflex boot today. I've come to the conclusion that it is superb. I now feel completely comfortable on it even after only five sets or so. I feel much more connected with the ski now. I'm still yet to have a big OTF on it, but certainly seems to be money well spent so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MZito Posted August 26, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 26, 2012 I ski a radar and set it to them with the carbon plate and they drilled and put inserts in so the plate does not bend/bow back. Has worked great for over 2 seasons now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
303Skier Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I had the same issue on my A2...Insets and some industrial grade epoxy and no more toe raise. I think it took me 15 mins to do both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted August 7, 2015 Administrators Share Posted August 7, 2015 No need to worry about toe raise Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
303Skier Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Yeah I didn't like the carbon plate flexing like a diving board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller DanE Posted August 7, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 7, 2015 Ran into the same issue when getting my son onto the same setup, Reflex indicated they were working on some plate solution to fix this and offered us a free beta test version. Turned out to be a non issue as the force from the boot pressing forward into the horseshoe keeps the plate down anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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