Baller ScarletArrow Posted June 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2012 So there is a record tournament, maybe even a pro event, at lake "A". Skier #1 knows that he/she doesn't ski until later in the day and has access to a course at lake "B". Other skiers in the tournament may or may not have access (or the time before they are up) to lake "B". Is it unethical for the Skier to go to lake "B" early to get in warm-up set before heading over to lake "A" to ski for their official score? Does this even happen? Thought just crossed my mind since we have 6-7 lakes in a 20 mile radius where someone could pull it off if they really felt that it would help them. I have to believe that with all the lakes in FL that someone has already done it. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 9400 Posted June 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2012 I'm good with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boarditup Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Why not? Use what resources you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller danbirch Posted June 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2012 Not sure why, but sometimes one body of water "feels" different than another body of water. It might work against him. Also, he could waste some important energy (I only have so much....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eyepeeler Posted June 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2012 I don't care if he skis one or five practice sets at the other lake. To me the etiquette lies with lack of helping with the tourney that he is in...Driving, judging, dock starter, etc. instead of skiing at the other lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Skihack Posted June 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2012 This thread brings to mind the 2010 Nats up in Illinois. They decided to have people stand in line for tickets for practice runs and the parents just acted like those people who fight at WalMart on Black Friday. People breaking line. Some folks getting tickets for others. It was just plain disrespectful. I watched with disbelief. This was mostly G2 and G3 practice for Slalom. In my opinion, kinda gave the sport a black eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted June 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2012 Sites ski differently, don't care a bit if it's not practice on the tourney site prior to tourney start for a select few on tourney day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ lpskier Posted June 30, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted June 30, 2012 You can take a practice set at Okeeheelee before your turn at Nationals. So what? Lpskier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jipster43 Posted June 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2012 What about taking a practice set in the evening after the first day of a tournament - before the second day? On the tournament lake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted June 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2012 Honestly, I don't care. I've seen it. Heck, Dave Miller has taken a practice set after a Big Dawg qualifer and the other BD finalists don't seem to care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taelan28 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Is it in the rules? Then its ethical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jipster43 Posted June 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2012 Last year I drove ten hours to a 3 event tourney only to blow up on my second pass. I was really bummed that I had to wait 24 hours to redeem myself - especially when the neighboring lake sat unused all day. I started drinking early on that day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Rich Posted June 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2012 interesting comments about water sking. In just about any other sport I have done it would be OK to practice on an adjacent court or field. Not only would it be OK, its kind of expected. In no other sport I have done was I expected to work also. Water sking is different, thats for sure. You train for hours to ski for a couple of minutes, and work at the competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jcamp Posted June 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2012 Saw it happen often in college tournaments when we we held them at Jack's. Some of his ski school students and pros who skied there would ski on the second lake while the tournament went on. Never really thought that was fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klindy Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Find me a golfer that doesnt use the driving range and practice putting green before AND after a tournament round! Batting practice...tennis players hit balls to each other....etc...etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jedgell Posted June 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted June 30, 2012 I don't have a problem with it, seen it often. Not sure if it helps the skier that much. Like Jipster43 said, if you had a bad round, or day, wouldn't you like to get to ski a few more passes if you have the opportunity? Most of us are out there skiing against ourselves anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Drago Posted July 1, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2012 Let em stress and ski their brains out. It's just insecurity and very rarely gives them an advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jipster43 Posted July 1, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 1, 2012 I'm pretty secure with my Inabilities. I just love to ski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ScarletArrow Posted July 1, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted July 1, 2012 I agree with the examples from golf, basketball, bowling, etc. I'm just thinking in my example that not everyone would have equal access to a practice lake, when they normally would in other sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller TSki Posted July 2, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 2, 2012 Right I think the point is that in the ski lake situation, unlike most other sports, the opportunity to practice only exists to a select few of the competitors because of their connections. I'm with most people in that I wouldn't mind because lakes seem to ski quite different but I can see why it would be considered unfair to some people. At any rate I don't think it's a big enough issue to warrant being addressed with any kind of rule. Even if I didn't like my competitors skiing at the lake next door when I can't a rule against it would seem even worse. I mean, hey, there may be a day when I'm the guy that can ski next door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted July 2, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 2, 2012 Most of those guys would spank our kiesters without the extra practice. Not a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted July 2, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted July 2, 2012 Look in the rule book. I was told that Favret did this back in the 90s and the CJ fouund out about it and DQd him from the event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller H2OSkiGirl Posted July 2, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 2, 2012 I agree with eyepeeler... As long as they are at the tournament to help with all the different jobs that need to be done then my hat is off to them! I would love to be in that position where I could practice to get the jitters out, but practicing a day or two before is fine with me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Drago Posted July 2, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 2, 2012 When there was a pro tour, there was a rule against it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted July 2, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 2, 2012 Whats a pro tour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Waternut Posted July 2, 2012 Baller Share Posted July 2, 2012 If you can't ski on a separate lake during your downtime, shouldn't you be mingling with others and making connections/friends? I don't know about everyone else but going to a tournament, driving hours to get there, and paying a bunch of money for 1-2 passes before I eat it isn't exactly something I would do for fun. It's more of something I would do for the experience or to meet people who love doing what I do. If I wanted to have fun, I would've probably done a slalom lake close by and skied til I was pooped for less money. If I were to ski at another lake prior to competing, I would want to do that because it was fun and not because it might give me an edge. I didn't really think slalom skiing was a big enough sport that we could hate each other for skiing in our downtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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