Baller escmanaze Posted August 13, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 13, 2012 Wow!!! Why in the world would anybody do that intentionally to their boat? Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skihart Posted August 13, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 13, 2012 Haha....I have seen that one before. Apparently the driver actually put it into reverse while turning and hitting some rollers at the same time.... I think the motor was toast..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted August 13, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted August 13, 2012 Wow, that is just frightening! I have driven an open bow outboard since I was 14 and never ever had anything close to that happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted August 17, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted August 17, 2012 So I just had a discussion with an acquaintance who has an '03 or '05 (he was not sure which) Malibu Response LX (stepover, not walkthrough) that they are not using much. Though he does not have authority to offer, and I do not have authority to accept yet (we both would have to get the proposal through committee ;-0), we talked about partnering on the boat for the next two years, then us taking the boat over after his kids are gone, and they do not want a boat any more. They only go out 6 or 8 times a summer now. Maybe 25 hours a summer he says. It is a very nice looking malibu, though he did put a tower on it since his kids are nationally ranked snowboarders, and therefore, wakeboarders. No wedge. Â It has been well maintained by him and the price could be very right. What do you guys think of the 03-05 stepover malibus? Â This is all very preliminary, and it might not make it out of committee on one end or the other, but it could be a decent way to get into a good boat. Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bulldog Posted August 17, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 17, 2012 Fantastic boat!! Pull the trigger!! "Do Better..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted August 17, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 17, 2012 @sunvalleylaw, great ski boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller baja Posted August 17, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 17, 2012 My Bakersfield ski buddy's 97 SNOB is for sale on Ski It Again, SIA19616. He will be picking up a Malibu TXI promo boat from SLC, Utah in a few weeks. I'll bet he could deliver the SNOB to you. I've skied behind it a bunch and it's got a sweet wake, is in great shape, drives like its on rails and starts every time. Has stargazer with the Z-Box already. Offered at $13,490...Nuff said. Check it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller escmanaze Posted August 18, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 18, 2012 Oh wow. So now we're really coming to the question of whether or not I can get the wife to go for a step over open bow instead of a walk-thru. Do you know what date he is coming up to SLC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsouthar Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Get a cobalt! Â That boat offers you amazing value. It's a stern drive so a the touch of a button(trim button) you can have the wake size however you want it. Â Not sure what size your looking at or price range. But you can get a cobalt 226 which is 24ft with swim platform from 24-28. And those are '02-'06. Â It's the best boat on the water. Whether you wanna ski, wakeboard or ride around in style. You can't go wrong with a cobalt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsouthar Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 That's 24-28K for listed prices. I forgot to specify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted August 18, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 18, 2012 @tsouthar, for a recreational boat they are probably fine, but as a true ski boat comparing a cobalt to a nautique/malibu/mastercraft or other high end direct drive ski boat is like comparing apples and bowling balls. Very different mission for those two styles of boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller PatM Posted August 18, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 18, 2012 @tsouthar, You could not keep that Cobalt in the course with a real skier behind it. Wake size for skiing no way comparible to even a 1990 ski boat of your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller baja Posted August 18, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 18, 2012 @escmanaze you should contact him directly thru ski it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller escmanaze Posted August 19, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 19, 2012 Hi Baja, I did send him an email on SIA. I think we're in touch now, thanks much for the heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted August 19, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 19, 2012 @sunvalleylaw I have an 02 Response LX and it is an awesome ski and family boat. Your arrangement sounds perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted August 19, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted August 19, 2012 Well, the idea of sharing the '03 Bu LX made it out of committee on my end. I will contact the owner and see if he was truly serious, and ask him to submit it to committee on his end. Likely a next year's project other than maybe a test day or two at this point. Â We are surrounded by forest fires up here, and the air quality has been very poor where we camp up at Redfish and the north lakes to ski, and where this family uses their boat. The authorities say they this fire (up near Stanley, ID, called the Halstead fire on the inciweb site), is going to burn until the snow flies or other wet and cold weather kills it. Â If we get a break in the smoke, and we can get the families together, this time of year is usually a great time to get out there, into early Sept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted August 19, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted August 19, 2012 BTW, that Bakersfield SNOB sounds like a great deal! @escmanaze, I hope that works out for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ham_Wallace Posted August 19, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 19, 2012 99 Malibu Response LX, OB. Trunk holds 3 slaloms, cooler in floor, diamond hull, Get the Monsoon 320 HP. Very fuel efficient and smooth. Great ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted August 19, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted August 19, 2012 @Ham Wallace, I am going to wander down and take a look at this boat today I think, and try to find out what motor it has, etc. I know it is a nice boat, but I don't know all the details. As i said, he was not sure what year it was. They got it in around 05-06, but he couldn't remember what year it was. he thought '05 and his wife thought '03. Before skiing behind the '09 S/n 196 (also a nice wake), my favorite wake was a 90's Malibu closed bow, and I skied behind this boat before, and the wake is very nice. I hope this all works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller escmanaze Posted August 19, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 19, 2012 Ha ha! Yeah, I'm glad you're running up on a good deal on that RLX up there. I kind of hi-jacked your thread here, so I really didn't want to hi-jack your boat in the process. Hopefully we'll both have a great setup before wintertime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted August 19, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted August 19, 2012 HaHa, we hijacked each other's thread. No worries though, some good info came out of both threads. Yeah, I hope this deal works out. Got some homework to do, . . . But hopefully . . . Good luck on yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted August 20, 2012 Baller Share Posted August 20, 2012 If anyone is interested I have some friends with a 2003 Malibu response LX open bow. Near Dallas Tx. Probably get it for less than 20K. Its in great shape with trailer. Perfect pass. Less than 500 hours. PM me I'll give you Number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDNAH2OSKIER Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I will pay cash for any ridiculously low priced tow boats. : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrybb Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 I think the only difference in these years was a rear ski trunk was added in 99. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted August 31, 2015 Author Baller Share Posted August 31, 2015 Re-awakening this old thread as the idea of replacing our old outboard has surfaced again. I was walking along the beach and saw this one which looks perfect for what I want. It is about a '00 I think. Any idea what a 00-03 LX costs? Â I love that style bimini top too. About what year did Malibu go to this style of LX? Â Just for grins, here is another boat that was at the lake yesterday. I doubt I would go for one, and of course it is not an open bow . But fun to look at. :)Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ MISkier Posted August 31, 2015 Baller_ Share Posted August 31, 2015 They made that LX style beginning in 1998 (1999 was the first year with the trunk). They may still make it now. I have a 2009. The new LXR is essentially the same boat, but with a walkthrough instead of a step over open bow. Â I would think a 2000 - 2003 LX would be in the $15K range, depending on options, trailer, hours, condition. The worst slalom equipment I own is between my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted August 31, 2015 Baller Share Posted August 31, 2015 @sunvalleylaw My 99 RLX has a great wake. I like the storage under the walk over. Anytime I bring kids out the always fight over who gets in the bow seats. Its not as bad as the 197 for dipping the bow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted July 4, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted July 4, 2016 @gregy Thanks! Back in the hunt. We lost out on an early 00's RLX a couple years ago, when I started this thread, then just used our old outboard, until we just broke it yesterday. Pulled the tow bar out of the floor, due to rotting old wood, and broke the fiberglass it passed through. I don't think the part we broke was structural, but still. The old outboard motor is worth something, and maybe someone wants the boat for fishing. So, onwards and upwards. Looking at late 90's to early 00's Response LX's. Seems to be the best fit for us. Trying to keep it to around 12k or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted July 4, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted July 4, 2016 Found a candidate in the Issaquah, Wa area we are looking at. Just the first reasonable one within driving distance we found. So the search starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted July 4, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 4, 2016 Welcome back. There's some deals out. I think the 99 and later Rlx is best. 98 doesn't bave the trunk but is the same hull. Look for fuel Injection. 92 - 95 prostar 205s are worth looking at, some have fuel injection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted July 4, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 4, 2016 For Responses: 99 was the first year of what's still effectively in use from a running surface and deck perspective in the current Response LXR. 99-00 had the current shape and flat dash with knob switches. 99-01 had the drip tray under the driver. '01 got a much nicer (IMO) dash layout 02-0? the paint scheme(s) changed slightly, drip molded decals became standard for the "malibu" decal 03 they went to paddle wheel speed pickup and a stainless topper on the windscreen Anything newer than that might be a bit out of the price range you're gunning for. I'd look for an '02 or '03 with the Monsoon, up-to-date PerfectPass, and the latest ECM firmware. The '02s tended to conk out when cold. The '03s implemented what's known around the Malibu forums as an "idle flair" which is annoying when tightening the line. Both were fixed with software updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted July 4, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted July 4, 2016 Other than the lack of "trunk", are there other things about the '98 that are not as hot? I seem to find a few 97's and 98's closer to our price range, and within reasonable driving distance. Particularly the '98 Lake Sammamish boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller UWSkier Posted July 4, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 4, 2016 From a skiing and driving perspective, no. The 98 and the 99+ will perform pretty much identically. 98 will have simpler color schemes, no drip molded decals, more basic upholstery. 98 may also have airguide speedo instead of the Kysor Medallion servo-based gauges. Can't remember which year they introduced that setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted July 4, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted July 4, 2016 This also has some kind of old speed control feature called BTS which the owner says works sort of like perfect pass. Not a big issue for me, as we rarely have access to a course anyway. Well, maybe not. There is one out on Magic Res. again, and the Res. is full this year. But still, not a huge feature or detraction either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted July 4, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted July 4, 2016 One last thing. I cannot find the Owner/Seller's name here on the forum, but he has used it to teach lessons on Lake Sammamish, and is on the board of their local club, and has kept it up for that purpose. So looks somewhat promising. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted July 4, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted July 4, 2016 The Sammamish boat does have a 325 Monsoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted July 4, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 4, 2016 You can always add PP later, it is a plus though if you can find one with it. The 98 RLx was first year of the diamond hull which is the same hull as the 99+. 325 Monsoon is what I have and its been very dependable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller escmanaze Posted July 4, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 4, 2016 Hey man long time no talk. I did end up buying that SNOB in bakersfield, and it has been great for me so far. I do generally still keep my eyes on that similar market just to always stay up to date on the general value of my boat, and just because I'm a fiend for looking at boats. That one up at Sammamish seems to fit best the description you are talking about as far as I can see in the general intermountain west area. Â FWIW, If you do get a good inboard ski boat, such as that RLX, I would start saving my money the second I bought the boat to be able to put perfect pass on it. Even when I'm not in the course, it's a life saver, marriage saver, friend saver, you name it. It just makes every day on the lake better. A lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted July 4, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted July 4, 2016 @escmanaze @gregy @UWSkier Apparently the speed control system it has was known as BTS, and/or SL Cruise. I have not found much on it yet via google search. This is all I have found so far. If it works as described, it might be fine until it breaks, when I could get Perfect Pass or something.  https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.waterski/p33yFyOsEgw And, good to talk to you guys again too. My middle son is really starting to like skiing and boating, and my daughter is loving her wakeboard, and may yet ski soon. And my wife has been having fun with it, so it is worth investing in a decent used boat. My back has been holding up decently for freesking, and working on modernizing and improving form. I will have to rebuild my bindings though. LOL! The wraps are ripped pretty badly. They are D3 stock type. I will probably just order replacement parts and rebuild them. My good old Nomad RCX still is working fine for me! Fun to be back at it, particularly as the reservoir near us has water this year, and there is a course I can start using when we are there. Cheers guys! And @UWSkier , thanks for all your good info! It helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted July 4, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted July 4, 2016 Here is the craigslist link to the ad for the boat I am looking at if anyone has input.  https://seattle.craigslist.org/est/boa/5666027018.html I looked at, and decided I don't care, about the rear "trunk" We would store stuff differently anyway I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller gregy Posted July 4, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 4, 2016 Looks nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller unksskis Posted July 6, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 6, 2016 Get a 96-98 Prostar 205 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted July 8, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted July 8, 2016 Did some NADA looking and he looks pretty fairly priced. My brother, who lives in that area and is a tournament boat owner, is going to take a look this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller escmanaze Posted July 8, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 8, 2016 That sounds awesome!! P.S. I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with unksskis. My friend has a 96 PS 205. It's not a terrible wake, but it's not even close to as good as my 97 SNOB. I'm guessing a response LX will be a wake a lot closer to my boat than a 96-98 PS205. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted July 8, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted July 8, 2016 Based on my experiences over the years, behind nautiques, MC's and Bu's, and my brother's Tige, I like the Bu just fine. Not that I have not liked the new or near new Nautique wakes. There is a nice boat down at Black Butte Rance in out of shoshone that I love to ski behind. But, not finding those in my price range at the moment. Hopefully this one works out. If not, further shopping will ensue. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted July 8, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted July 8, 2016 Also, I talked at length with the owner today. He described to me every little nick and detail my brother can expect to find, his maintenance, and etc., and also described that BTS/SL Cruise system. He uses it almost constantly with his teaching and says it works just fine for him, keeping the speed within 0.1 of the setting, ie, if you set at 34.2, it might go to 34.3 or 34.1 but holds it pretty constant. Sounds like it was sort of a "betamax" thing. A decent system, but PP became the standard. Or something like that. ;). In any case, should work fine for my pretty much recreational purposes as you suggest, @escmanaze . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted July 10, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted July 10, 2016 Inspection by my brother and his boat ownership partner checked out. A couple minor cosmetic things, but not much for an 18 year old boat. Functionally seems in very good working order. The guy's garage tells the tale. A neat guy, that repairs everything as it comes up. So, hoping to put the deal together this week! Hopefully a new boat day on the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted July 10, 2016 Baller Share Posted July 10, 2016 @sunvalleylaw we ski regularly behind 98-02 year Response LXs and they are still strong and pull skiers in the course very well. It looks great and if it has been well maintained will be a very good boat for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller sunvalleylaw Posted July 16, 2016 Author Baller Share Posted July 16, 2016 Working on deal details now. Fingers crossed. I may have it back in Idaho before the Nationals. I might try to attend those too. Though I would not need my boat then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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