Baller rodltg2 Posted May 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 29, 2012 Yeah, I know this is a waterski forum, but I had to share MC's newest creation . This boat is crazy looking to say the least. I don't know if anyone here has followed what has been going on with this boat, but its has turned into quite a debacle! This is MC's next genration Xstar. It made its debut at surf expo as the next greatest thing, and industry changer if you will. It then disappeared and no one heard or saw the boat for awhile. Apparently it needed some refinements before the productions models were available. It then re appreared and made its tournament debut last week up against the new Nautique G23. The Nautique got great reviews , while the new star was not well recieved. Anyhow, just thought I would share this as it is crazy looking ! http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b265/rodltg2/MB20boats20golf201180.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b265/rodltg2/MB20boats20golf201176.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b265/rodltg2/MB20boats20golf201177.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b265/rodltg2/MB20boats20golf201172.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b265/rodltg2/MB20boats20golf201167.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b265/rodltg2/MB20boats20golf201156.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller fu_man Posted May 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 29, 2012 Looks like a Transformer....definitely a decepticon. Optimus Prime better watch out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted May 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 29, 2012 It has a big crease in it....it looks like someone dropped a large structural I-beam on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted May 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 29, 2012 The crease is Mastercraft's new styling cue that all new designs will carry. It started with the new X30. When we pulled the wrap off of the first X30 around the end of december I wasn't too crazy about it. It's growing on me, though. I think the darker colors tend to look better with it. Charles has an X30 on the lot that is one of the sickest boats I've ever seen. As far as the X star goes, it was not slated for start of production until April(for june delivery) even though the prototype was being shown in December. Only one prototype existed, which is why it wasn't available much. That one boat was being shipped all over the country. They then pulled it back in to finish production details so they could begin spraying molds in late april. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rodltg2 Posted May 29, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted May 29, 2012 Will the ski boats carry that crease as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted May 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 29, 2012 Rod, Scott Crutchfield told me that as they redesign a boat or design a new boat, it will carry the same swoop and crease in the rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted May 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 29, 2012 One cool thing about the XStar s that rear seat with the aluminum grab handle. It converts from a front facing seat, to a rear facing seat, to a complete bed just by picking up on the handle and sliding the seatback to a different position. The X30 got that too. Pretty trick and versatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted May 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 29, 2012 Sorry guys butt in my eyes that's FUGGLY! Bet your bottom dollar that Sugar Papa Wally Wanabe will like it and pay big dough though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kona Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Add some wings to that thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller unksskis Posted May 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 29, 2012 Check out their video released yesterday of team rider Harley Clifford doing a wake to wake double tantrum (actual backflip, not a trick backflip). That had only been done previously off of a double up by less than a handful of riders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kona Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Or a Bel-Air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Bulldog Posted May 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 29, 2012 "Bet your bottom dollar that Sugar Papa Wally Wanabe will like it and pay big dough though" .THAT could be the best wakeboard quote ever!!!!! @thager nicely done!! "Do Better..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted May 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 29, 2012 Real off the lot cost of that lovely piece of....art??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted May 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 29, 2012 Retail $140k+. Charles would sell one for $120k or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted May 29, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 29, 2012 That's as laughable as the color scheme and the I-beam that fell on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Sullivan Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Take a look at this X30. I think this is a better representation of the typical boat. Not a lime green shocker. http://ski-boats.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted May 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 30, 2012 If you could add that "bat boat" bat tail to the MC...I might buy another one....OK maybe not. If they ever cross the interior design of a SN200 and the exterior of the new MC design....I may just puke!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted May 30, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted May 30, 2012 The someone dropped a large structural I-beam on it dent has been done before. My daughter loves the lime green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted May 30, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted May 30, 2012 that lime green color scheme looks like the "monster energy" version that is on display at all the moto-cross events Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwillygood Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 looks like the nightmare model they had a few years back, sweet looking boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted May 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 30, 2012 Do those up in camo and Uncle Sam has an instant flotilla of PT boats. Where's McHale when you need him? Looks like Ensign Parkers running the show now. Like I said "Fuggly"! Probably cheaper to buy a battleship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kona Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I Like It !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted May 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 30, 2012 The lime green is one off. Or I believe that's still the plan. I think when we looked a month or so ago, an orange color was the only interior color you could get. You won't see many of these. Unlike the previous X-Star hull which had multiple molds. This one only has one mold. Which means a max run of about 30-35 a year like they do with the X55. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Than_Bogan Posted May 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 30, 2012 I've been searching my brain for a counter-example, and I can now say with some confidence: That is the ugliest new boat I have ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted May 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 30, 2012 Its a wakeboard boat. Why do all of y'all even bother with talking about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Than_Bogan Posted May 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 30, 2012 @MattP Because it's always entertaining to judge things, especially when you can get the smug satisfaction of judging them negatively! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted May 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 30, 2012 @Than Bogan Sounds more like you are wasting valuable time that you could spend skiing or doing skiing related things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Than_Bogan Posted May 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 30, 2012 Nah, I'm wasting not-very-valuable time while some tests are running on my PC at work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted May 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 30, 2012 I certainly hope the new Prostar doesn't share these design cues. I also find it odd that they're only using one mold, in anticipation of low sales. Our local CC dealer said there's a backlog of over 80 G23's, and that was a few weeks ago. What the heck is up in TN?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted May 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 30, 2012 Scott, there's nothing up. It's not that they anticipate low sales. But MC has 13 models. CC only has 5 distinct models. So CC will sell more of the same model, although MC will sell more overall. Plus, they're not targeting the Xstar to the same audience. The G23 is targeted more towards the MC X35 and not the XStar. MC has numerous molds for the X35 because that is the bread and butter model for them, like CC expects the G23 to be. The Xstar is still a relatively low freeboard flatter deadrise hull while the G23 is a deeper boat for bigger lakes. Also, CC is selling slots. There are not necessarily 80 G23's sold. There are 80 slots sold to dealers for production throughout the year. Big distinction there. Goes back to what CC considers a sold boat and what MC considers a sold boat. Essentially, CC considers an order to be a sold boat whether it's a stock order for a dealer lot or a customer order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted May 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 30, 2012 @ShaneH That makes sense. I'm still excited to see that the new Prostar will be all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted May 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 30, 2012 New Prostar won't be out for 2013. They're still working on the hull design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted May 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 30, 2012 CC considers a boat sold when it leaves the factory because it becomes a dealer problem. MC considers a boat sold when it leaves the dealer. That is one way the numbers a re skewed when CC says they sold 80 boats all they really did was sell 80 slots to dealers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted May 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 30, 2012 @ Shane 2013? Might want to drop a couple more beams on it then. : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted May 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 30, 2012 @ShaneH Any idea what he hold up is on the new Prostar? Wasn't it originally supposed to be 2012, then delayed till 2013? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rodltg2 Posted May 30, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted May 30, 2012 The new xstar probably took priority and they didnt get it right the first time around. I'm only to assume the new prostar is going to be the same type of deal. I can't wait to see what happens with the new prostar. Sit back and watch the show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted May 30, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 30, 2012 @swc5150 The new X30 and then the Xstar took bandwidth the last two years. Crutch says they won't bring a new prostar replacement out until they know it'll be the bomb. The 200 set the bar way high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boarditup Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 There was a push to get all the molds to ride and ski identically. From what I heard from some of the development team, they wanted to hit a home-run the first model year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller rodltg2 Posted May 30, 2012 Author Baller Share Posted May 30, 2012 It will need to be a hovercraft to compete with the 200! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted May 31, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 31, 2012 I Love my CC200, and I am glad they raised the bar. Now Malibu has rasied the bar, and soon Mastercraft will. We all benefit from this. Especially at Tournaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Sullivan Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 Ed, I couldn't agree with you more! I love competition, it drives everything to be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller 6balls Posted May 31, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 31, 2012 I saw a 10 year old chevy impala today...the one's that look like they were made of wax, got a little too warm and parts of the car got droopy. The x-star above came to my mind. If it is a design element on the new prostar, I hope it works better...not that I will be able to afford one anyway, but I do favor attractive lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller swc5150 Posted May 31, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 31, 2012 @ShaneH I was going to comment on the 200 setting the bar too high, but I didn't want to come across as a smart butt. CC seems to be dominating this era of tow boats. I know I savor every pull I get behind my brother's 200. That boat is amazing in so many respects... MC has their hands full to top it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted May 31, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 31, 2012 @swc5150 - Honestly, MC will tell you exactly that. They will tell you that CC knocked one out of the park as far as skiability goes with the 200. Also with consistency from boat to boat. That's why they don't want to rush a new boat out until it's 100% ready to do the same. I have heard mention that there might be some small changes to the 197 hull package for '13 based on what they've learned with the new boat R&D. Regardless of the status of a new boat, if you improve your current boat due to that R&D it's a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted May 31, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 31, 2012 I remember the complaints a couple years ago comparing the CC 200 to the 196. Fuel burn, huge size and a mediocre trick wake is not really "knocking one out of the park". Technically the Centurion may be a better boat. Malibus ski great - despite their size. And Mastercraft has arguably the best trick wake to make it maybe the best overall boat. The only thing worse than a black boat (I know because I have an interest in a black 08 MC) is a black boat with a lime green interior. But I don't go much for appearances. I'd be happy repainting it primer white. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted May 31, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 31, 2012 They hit one out of the park as far as slalom skiability goes. No one tricks any more do they?!?! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted May 31, 2012 Baller Share Posted May 31, 2012 As long as someone else is buying the gas. I liked the 196 a lot too. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ DW Posted May 31, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted May 31, 2012 IMO a big knock out of the park snapshot in time was the early-mid 90's with the PS190 / Malibu Echelon / CC 196 boats and all the adoring comments on those boats on this forum seems to support that. I feel there was more of a lull in development during the wakeboard craze and now some resources are aimed back at the slalom market. Not sure I would agree that the new ones have knocked it out of the park, improved, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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