Baller WBLskier Posted February 16, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 16, 2012 I have never adjusted the fin on my ski in my entire life. I ski in Minnesota where the water temperature during our ski season changes from 33 degrees to over 80 degrees. I often have times during the season where I struggle and feel like a fin adjustment might help, but in the end I think it is just a mid-season slump and I am doing something wrong that I usually work out over time. I finally switched over to a 66 inch 2010 radar strada last year. It I set to stock settings (as far as I know). Can anyone comment on how they decide when it is time to make a fin adjustment? I have read some articles about the benefits of adjusting to compensate for cold water, but I’ve never done it. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ RichardDoane Posted February 16, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted February 16, 2012 Washington water temp. goes from the high 30's to the high 70's on this (West) side of the mountains, and I stopped playing the fin "tweak" game. Spend more time stacked, on the handle, and keep your vision up, and the results will be way better than a .005 adjustment of that silly fin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted February 16, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted February 16, 2012 D3 skies have a good Pg for above seeing how to measure and set fins and boots. http://www.d3skis.com/v/sitefiles/Tech%20Support%20Fin%20Adjustment%20Literature%20Rev%20A.pdf But with so many different boot companies ( hardshell, rubber, hybrids). I find their photo pointless as each has a different heel structure/build. Companies need to standardize a mark on the boot plates to measure from, not the boot structure. I would say with gradual warming up and cooling down of water temps, fin changes my just become frustrating. When I travel from FL to MN in July, I change things a bit but may not next time since I've gone to just a front ventral fin only. I think fin settings would help condition changes if they were ratical and rather instant like skiing cold water gravel bottom one day and deep warm muck bottom waters the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted February 16, 2012 Administrators Share Posted February 16, 2012 http://ballofspray.com/tech-articles/53-2004-lever-article Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Roger Posted February 16, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 16, 2012 This comes up every year. I asked the top 4 skiers at Okeeheelee (temps go from low to mid 50s to as high as the low 90s). None of them adjust their fin for water temp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted February 16, 2012 Administrators Share Posted February 16, 2012 Thank you Roger. Please repeat this as often as you can. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted February 16, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 16, 2012 in another thread we talked about the water temp factor. Why? It feels like the ski runs so easy when it is cold, is stickier when the water warms. Two common (and easy) adjustments came up: one, you could move the bindings back one hole or, two, you could take a degree out of the wing. I have not ever adjusted for water temp, but might try this in 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Gloersen Posted February 16, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 16, 2012 There are many sound reasons why the Professor invented the adjustable fin and many practical applications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Gloersen Posted February 16, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 16, 2012 There are many sound reasons why the Professor invented the adjustable fin and many practical applications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted February 17, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted February 17, 2012 Just got off the phone with a top Big Dawg. Colder water below 72ish-boot forward, above 72ish-boots back. No fin adjustment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted February 17, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted February 17, 2012 Just got off the phone with a top Big Dawg. Colder water below 72ish-boot forward, above 72ish-boots back. No fin adjustment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted February 17, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted February 17, 2012 @WBL, stop down and ski and we will get you set on the right path. I dont adjust to temps but adjust to what I think is going wrong at any given time. I am never far off of my orig numbers but at times a bit forward or back helps the brain which helps the skiing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ The_MS Posted February 17, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted February 17, 2012 @WBL, stop down and ski and we will get you set on the right path. I dont adjust to temps but adjust to what I think is going wrong at any given time. I am never far off of my orig numbers but at times a bit forward or back helps the brain which helps the skiing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller disland Posted February 17, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 17, 2012 I adjust my fin when the ski is making my turns better on one side than the other. I can tweak it to try and make them as equal as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller disland Posted February 17, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 17, 2012 I adjust my fin when the ski is making my turns better on one side than the other. I can tweak it to try and make them as equal as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted February 18, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 18, 2012 When setting up a new ski, I always start with the Factory Settings. Then start by adjusting bindings to get the TIP level on both side turns. Next is fine tuning the fin to get the feel I want at my shorter line lengths. Last is adjusting the wing. On both my skis, the Sans SR-2 and HO S-2, I use a Forward Mini Ventral at Zero Degrees and set the Rear Large Ventral at 5 degrees for water temps @ +80 F...6 degrees @ 70-80 F.. 7 degrees @ 65-70 F.....and 8 degrees below 65 F.. I also move the Powershell Bindings 1/8" FWD when water temp is below 70 F. Some of these figures were recommended by Sans Rival. I find this keeps the ski feeling the same at all these temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted February 18, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 18, 2012 When setting up a new ski, I always start with the Factory Settings. Then start by adjusting bindings to get the TIP level on both side turns. Next is fine tuning the fin to get the feel I want at my shorter line lengths. Last is adjusting the wing. On both my skis, the Sans SR-2 and HO S-2, I use a Forward Mini Ventral at Zero Degrees and set the Rear Large Ventral at 5 degrees for water temps @ +80 F...6 degrees @ 70-80 F.. 7 degrees @ 65-70 F.....and 8 degrees below 65 F.. I also move the Powershell Bindings 1/8" FWD when water temp is below 70 F. Some of these figures were recommended by Sans Rival. I find this keeps the ski feeling the same at all these temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted February 18, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted February 18, 2012 @Ed Johnson what's the difference you feel with the ventrals on the S2 vs standard wing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted February 18, 2012 Baller_ Share Posted February 18, 2012 @Ed Johnson what's the difference you feel with the ventrals on the S2 vs standard wing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted February 19, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 19, 2012 Requires less load, sustains speed better, tip stays down better off the apex, and helps to keep the ski from overturning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ed_Johnson Posted February 19, 2012 Baller Share Posted February 19, 2012 Requires less load, sustains speed better, tip stays down better off the apex, and helps to keep the ski from overturning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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