Administrators Horton Posted October 10, 2011 Administrators Share Posted October 10, 2011 What is the exact width of the course in feet? What is the length of the rope at each shortening in feet? (it is metric so 35 off is not really 40 feet of rope - I can subtract 35 from 75) What is the delta between course width and the rope length at each shortening? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller_ Wish Posted October 10, 2011 Baller_ Share Posted October 10, 2011 My dog ate my answers. Oh wait, ah er ... that would be my daughters cat. No big dawg here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thompjs Posted October 10, 2011 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2011 Difference Nominal Metric Course Width Metric Feet 15 18.25 11.5 6.75 22.15 22 16 11.5 4.5 14.76 28 14.25 11.5 2.75 9.02 32 13 11.5 1.5 4.92 35 12 11.5 0.5 1.64 38 11.25 11.5 -0.25 -0.82 39 10.75 11.5 -0.75 -2.46 41 10.25 11.5 -1.25 -4.10 43 9.75 11.5 -1.75 -5.74 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted October 10, 2011 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2011 Point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted October 10, 2011 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2011 Dawg, he is trying to figure out his shortline potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted October 10, 2011 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2011 I can tell him that, all he has to do is ask! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 10, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted October 10, 2011 I have always thought this would be a better way to explain slalom to a new skier. Tell someone the rope is 9ft longer then the balls are wide at Orange makes more sense than 22 minus 75. Better yet Minus 2.46ft means more then 38 minus 75. (my new BP is 5 @ -.82ft and yours is something at -4.10 ft) I saw Nate get .5 @ -5.74 Saturday! I will get the format to look better tonight. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted October 10, 2011 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2011 Oh, Now i see the genius behind the madness, You are coaching again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 10, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted October 10, 2011 Does Scoke know that Dirt is never going to send the mid back? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted October 10, 2011 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2011 It is especially easier for measuring ropes for a tournament... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller colo_skier Posted October 10, 2011 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2011 Here's some excel charts for visualizationhttp://ballofspray.static.vanillaforums.com/uploads/FileUpload/c2/c501e03cb36efeb1d837ae5f385416.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller colo_skier Posted October 10, 2011 Baller Share Posted October 10, 2011 I like it. I couldn't figure out how to get Excel to change the color. Looks like you did something with the PDF though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 11, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted October 11, 2011 Try this http://ow.ly/6TVV4 Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 11, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted October 11, 2011 thanks to @thompjs for doing the math. I was trying to make you guys think a little & I really do think this is a better description than feet off. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller colo_skier Posted October 11, 2011 Baller Share Posted October 11, 2011 I like the chart were you are behind the boat versus were the bouy length is. This gives me some perspective of how much work I need to do to get to the fun stuff. I thought of this when we pull someone at 35 off and then the next person is at 15 off. The 15 off looks like miles behind the boat. It also helps in thinking that you have 20ft of rope outside the bouy at 15 off. So getting wide should be easy!!!! Haven't really found the easy part yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ral Posted October 11, 2011 Baller Share Posted October 11, 2011 In our latitudes, we talk on an even less clear way, a not so good translation would be "cuts" (recortes). So first cut is 18.25, second cut would be 16m, etc... So on a tourney we would say "he made 4 at the 6th cut" for 4@38. Or something like that. Which is even less graphical for anyone not familiar with the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chuck_Dickey Posted October 11, 2011 Baller Share Posted October 11, 2011 Trivia ? Is there a shortening beyond 43? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted October 11, 2011 Baller Share Posted October 11, 2011 yes, 9.5 meter line. Someone correct me if I am wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chuck_Dickey Posted October 11, 2011 Baller Share Posted October 11, 2011 Any shorter??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted October 11, 2011 Baller Share Posted October 11, 2011 the difference of 9.75m and 9.5m is 9.84 inches. At that short of a line would you want a bigger decrease in the length? at 9.5 the rope would be "-2m" or -6.56feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chuck_Dickey Posted October 11, 2011 Baller Share Posted October 11, 2011 Clue...look on page 82 in the 2011 AWSA rule book for the correct answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted October 12, 2011 Baller Share Posted October 12, 2011 Are you sure its page 82? http://www.usawaterski.org/pages/divisions/3event/2011AWSARuleBook.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chuck_Dickey Posted October 12, 2011 Baller Share Posted October 12, 2011 In this version, look on pages 43, 52 and 84. The downloaded pdf i have is page numbered different than this web version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MattP Posted October 12, 2011 Baller Share Posted October 12, 2011 yeah 9.25 I thought that was a given that it would reduce by .25m... not that it will get used anytime to soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted October 12, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted October 12, 2011 Have heard about Nate turning 3 at 43. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes ★ Baller Video Coaching System Become a Supporting Member or make a One-time Donation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Steven_Haines Posted October 12, 2011 Baller Share Posted October 12, 2011 Was the 3 @ 43 at Canyon Lake? I heard the same thing. too bad I wasn't there to witness it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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