Administrators Horton Posted July 3, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 3, 2011 A ventral is not a traditional wing and MS is still wrong. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 A wing is a wing. Horton is wrong. The differnce is a regular wing is free and for some reason, the ventral is 60.00. I guess 60 dollar wings work better than free wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 3, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 3, 2011 Bob does not use ANY wing.... What did you say way back when? Please don't make me look up the exact quote. On the other hand I am looking forward to my new t-shirt. I am surprised JD and Ward have not ordered yet. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 3, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 3, 2011 @MS you do understand that you started this. Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 3, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 3, 2011 Ok I went ahead and got the quote. Makes me so happy! On June 20th MS said: "Put the wing on. Do not listen to Horton or anyone else that tells you to ski without it. Bob put lots of R&D into design and the wing was on the ski the whole time." Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ham_Wallace Posted July 3, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 3, 2011 Horton is right . MS is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 3, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 3, 2011 Yet another possible t-shirt slogan Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jdarwin Posted July 4, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 4, 2011 Still my favorite and certainly is relavant in this instance........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ham_Wallace Posted July 4, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 4, 2011 I gotta have that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 The fact is that people need to use a wing. Wings work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 I changed ski sites this week-end to a faster lake and it was really sketchy until I added some more wing angle. That being said, I could have added some tip to accomplish the same thing but adding wing angle is easier than adjusting the fin. So I guess I'm with MS on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 4, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 4, 2011 do I need to post the photo of BLP again? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mrs_MS Posted July 4, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 4, 2011 but......maybe I should try no wing?!?! Maybe that would help my offside "chicken wing turns"....haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 @horton I'm just saying that I would have to change my fin setup if I take off my wing. Cuz it won't turn the way it's set up now without one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 4, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 4, 2011 And I am saying again, it may not work for you. It may not work for many skiers. It does work for some and it is worth a try. Most important, MS is wrong Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuney Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 How about we meet in the middle? Run a 7 degree wing like I do, it barely feels like it is there. Unlike a thin condom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 4, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 4, 2011 MS would still be wrong Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Razorskier1 Posted July 5, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 5, 2011 I'm not smart enough to screw around with this stuff. With me it goes like this. Step one, buy Razor. Step two, ask Volker to set the fin to the "factory" shortline settings because I don't have a caliper and don't know what I'm doing. Step three, ski on it that way in all kinds of water and all kinds of weather. Step four, work on my position on the ski, width at pull out, and handle control. The season is short around here -- I don't have time to waste trying new fin settings when I could be spending endless hours trying to figure out how to get my shoulders moving with my ski, or how to keep my handle low and tight off the second wake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ham_Wallace Posted July 6, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 6, 2011 Sorry MS, No Wing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Roger Posted July 6, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 6, 2011 No one has disproved MS' statement. We don't know if Bob had the wing on during development or not; that picture is from a tournament, not development... Karina had a wing when she ran 39 here at Okeeheelee May 15th; don't know the setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kstateskier Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 You lost me at "Horton is right..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Roger is right, When Dave and Bob send the test skis out to the team, they are using a wing when it is tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 6, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 6, 2011 I love that this thread will not die. Maybe I should start a whole section just about MS Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 MS for prez.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Not_The_Pug Posted July 6, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 6, 2011 MS is running against Horton for Prez? The debate should be good entertainment. Dsmart can moderate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted July 6, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 6, 2011 MS for president! JTH would only make a good secretary. People with haircuts need wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 6, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 6, 2011 You want the man from the land of Franken / not the man from the land of Reagan? Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller thager Posted July 6, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 6, 2011 I'd rather be wrong in the land of South Canada than right in the State of Confusion! Besides, you and Frankenberry look like you might be brothers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Horton is running for Supreme Galactic Ruler. I just want to be the prez. The left coast will never produce a Reagan again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Dirt Posted July 6, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 6, 2011 After what Horton did to me yesterday with the wood A2, I am for MS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 6, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 6, 2011 You had it coming Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Ham_Wallace Posted July 7, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 7, 2011 I miss Reagan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted July 7, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 7, 2011 I miss drinking beers w/ smart and jth, highly entertaining. Smart for prez and horton for vp, ms can ice fish in the land of ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Dawg, As long as Smart and JTH are buying the beer. It would have been great if I could have come over and stayed up til midnight drinking all that expensive beer they bought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller eleeski Posted July 7, 2011 Baller Share Posted July 7, 2011 Careful, Horton drinks Steel Reserve now. That's where he comes up with crazy ideas about not using a wing. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted July 7, 2011 Author Administrators Share Posted July 7, 2011 Steel Reserve? Hmm NO! Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted March 26, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted March 26, 2012 still makes me happy Goode ★ HO Syndicate ★ KD Skis ★ MasterCraft ★ PerfSki Radar ★ Reflex ★ S Lines ★ Stokes Drop a dime in the can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skidawg Posted March 27, 2012 Baller Share Posted March 27, 2012 Steel reserve is tasty if ur on abudget! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller teammalibu Posted March 27, 2012 Baller Share Posted March 27, 2012 Pulled Karens wing off yesterday and she ran her best passes of the year so far. She is at 30/32 15 off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Mrs_MS Posted March 27, 2012 Baller Share Posted March 27, 2012 When the water warms up a bit...I'm going to try "no winging" it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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