Baller Than_Bogan Posted September 20, 2010 Baller Share Posted September 20, 2010 So I listened to the part of the Diablo webcast where Karina was out-announcing all the veteran announcers, and she kept talking about "balance." She mentioned "good balance," "skiing balanced," etc. repeatedly.But I don't think I REALLY understand what she is talking about. On the one hand it's kinda obvious you need to be balanced on your ski -- otherwise you will fall over! But I feel confident she meant something much more than THAT!Since I aim to do anything Karina Nowlan tells me to do, I'd like to understand how I'm supposed to apply this "balance" concept to my skiing.Can anybody help? (I don't suppose Karina herself ever posts on here?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted September 20, 2010 Baller Share Posted September 20, 2010 I think most people generally have a tendancy to think of balance being left to right, ie lateral. Which is where your thought of falling over comes from. Balance in the left and right vector seems to start with the head's positioning. My perception is that when Karina(or Andy, or Jodi, etc) talk about balance they are keying in on the skier being over the top of the ski and centered over the bindings in a stacked position, ie fore/aft positioning. This is something that Jodi really tried to beat into me, starting from the time my ski broke over the surface and planed out after the deepwater start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted September 20, 2010 Administrators Share Posted September 20, 2010 Worse that that did you hear Asher screwing with me about New School? I think he was being funny… maybe that is just him but I kept trying to get info out of him and he kept pitching it back to me. The odds that I am right and he does not have an opinion are VERY LOW. Whatever, he is a super nice guy and his 2/4/6 turn! BABE’S ★ California Ski Ranch ★ Connelly ★ Denali ★ Goode ★ Mastering The Art Of Waterskiing HO ★ KDSkis ★ MasterCraft ★ MasterLine ★ PerfSki ★ Radar ★ Reflex ★ SLines ★ Stokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Drago Posted September 20, 2010 Baller Share Posted September 20, 2010 She means reallly, truly balanced. They are not thinking about what their ski is doing and it is part of the Whole skier. They are allowing the boat/rope/forces to push them through the course. They aren't pulling or struggling or over-turning. The left and right sides are equal. They are flowing, etc, etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Than_Bogan Posted September 20, 2010 Author Baller Share Posted September 20, 2010 Drago, those all sound great, but I don't understand what that means to actually DO. Perhaps if I were a natural athlete instead of a natural math geek, I would just know how to be balanced in all senses. But I'm afraid I need more specific direction.Or is balance more a term you can use to describe good skiing, but not directly usable as a coaching tool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jipster43 Posted September 20, 2010 Baller Share Posted September 20, 2010 As Shane was saying Jodi wants a 50/50 stance in terms of front and rear foot pressure. To achieve that he had me really exaggerate my counter rotation of my right hip (LFF). When I did this I couldn't help but be stacked on top of my ski and pressure the front foot more. It really helped my offside turn dramatically, but I'm still a duffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Drago Posted September 20, 2010 Baller Share Posted September 20, 2010 It's your goal. You only achieve Balance [capital B] when you no longer "do" stuff.It's a Zen-type thing. It comes and goes when It wants and you have very little to do with it.That's why she was saying it. It's a nod of the head, like , "Yup, he's there". Nice. Peace. It's when all those robotic moves actually become Natural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted September 20, 2010 Baller Share Posted September 20, 2010 Look at the day two pics that Horton posted. There is a shot of Karina coming into her toe side turn. I am not sure what the definition of skiing balance is, but a picture of her in the pre-turn should accompany it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted September 20, 2010 Baller Share Posted September 20, 2010 I was in the boat for the last round at Ski Ranch a few weeks ago. She looked like that the entire round. Right over the middle of the ski. And very little body movement so she stayed there on top of it the entire time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller jipster43 Posted September 21, 2010 Baller Share Posted September 21, 2010 Nick Parsons looked really balanced last weekend too. JP :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted September 21, 2010 Administrators Share Posted September 21, 2010 Don't try to ski like Karina. She is amazing but what the heck is she doing? I mean, I think she is the best but is wild to watch.Watch Parsons and Coble Eller. Stable, calm and smooth. Those are the two that I want to ski like.... or the two that I think I understand BABE’S ★ California Ski Ranch ★ Connelly ★ Denali ★ Goode ★ Mastering The Art Of Waterskiing HO ★ KDSkis ★ MasterCraft ★ MasterLine ★ PerfSki ★ Radar ★ Reflex ★ SLines ★ Stokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h2odawg79 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 How about; The reality of actually being "Light on the Line"... -This would be an example of aggregate Balance.I do like Drago's "Zen Factor". -Great point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boody Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Lots of great skiers to watch this weekend but Nate Smith was the skier who truly made it look easy, similar to Parrish. Even at 39, there was no hard pull which results in a hard edge change and jumping all over front in the turn.  Smith was so light on the line, I couldn't believe it was 39. The ladies were fun to watch as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chef23 Posted September 21, 2010 Baller Share Posted September 21, 2010 What about Parrish's technique. He is a giant but he seems to be really smooth, very balanced and doesn't do anything funky on the ski. Parrish runs some of the smoothest 39s I have ever seen (on video). I have watched April Coble from the boat and she is unbelievable to watch every pass looks the same and she is very balanced and smooth. Hers is a good technique to watch for us mortals because she never tries to overpower anything and runs into 39 at 5'7". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted September 21, 2010 Administrators Share Posted September 21, 2010 You guys see the video on the front page? (if you did not know there was a front page or where it is I will freak'n ban you for life) BABE’S ★ California Ski Ranch ★ Connelly ★ Denali ★ Goode ★ Mastering The Art Of Waterskiing HO ★ KDSkis ★ MasterCraft ★ MasterLine ★ PerfSki ★ Radar ★ Reflex ★ SLines ★ Stokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Than_Bogan Posted September 21, 2010 Author Baller Share Posted September 21, 2010 Although I have become aware of the front page, and even check it occasionally (by hitting the Ball of Spray image from the forum page), I'm not sure which videos you are referring to. Is one of those a particularly good example of "balanced" skiing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller skibug Posted September 21, 2010 Baller Share Posted September 21, 2010 the one of KLP behind the Pro C is cool........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Horton Posted September 21, 2010 Administrators Share Posted September 21, 2010 Third from the top is all the top male pros.... BABE’S ★ California Ski Ranch ★ Connelly ★ Denali ★ Goode ★ Mastering The Art Of Waterskiing HO ★ KDSkis ★ MasterCraft ★ MasterLine ★ PerfSki ★ Radar ★ Reflex ★ SLines ★ Stokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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