Goode - which one?

[clemsondave]

Considering trying a Goode. Seems to be several Goode skiers over here. How would I choose between the 3 (wide, mid and regular)? I'm a new school skier, 34mph, avg 5 @ 38, 174#. What are the attributes of each?

 

dave

[Boody]

Clemsondave,

I really like the 9900sl (regular) and have not tried the wide or mid.  Although I would love to give them a try.  I can tell you my ski buddy (200 lbs) went from a Nomad to a wide ride and his skiing shot up significantly, 6 bouys by tournament score.  Milford has had great success with the wide as well.  Scott Chipman may have tried a few of the Goodes but not sure.  I would like his 2 cents on this.

I don't think you can go wrong with any of them, but I would also would like to know the difference in the sl, mid and wide.  I vote mid or sl for you, not that it means anything.  Good luck.

[RichardDoane]

clemsondave - what are you using for bindings ?

[clemsondave]

Thanks Boody. I was leaning towards the mid, but no reasoning behind it. I'd be happy with 1-2 buoys, but 6 would do as well, heh heh.

 

I have my own creation for bindings. I used rollerblade boots for a few years, but got tired of them falling apart. Now, I'm on Reflex boots, my own G10 plate and dual lock.

[Ed_Johnson]

Dave,

Having skied the Reg. and currently the Wide, my vote is for the Mid. The reason being that the Mid is suppoose to have the cross course speed of the Reg, plus the turning capability of the Wide. In other words, the best of both worlds. I plan to try the Mid. but not till after Nationals.

GOODE LUCK,   ED

[Old MS Accout]

CD,

STRADA

[scoke]

 

Dave you obviously run a ton of buoys now so your technique is established as you are also a leaner built guy.

You wont go wrong with either ski, MR or Regular.

 I've seen a few buoys run on the Mid-ride as well as the 9900.

At first glance, it probably depends more on your style which ski will fit you.

If you have a big reaching forward countering move, the 9900 would be perfect.

If you are quiet, centered on the ski, the MR would be ideal as it'll engage the tip on the backside of the buoy for you. With it's curvature and surface area, it's going to do the work for you.

Either way, you'll run 38 easily on one of these skis.

[clemsondave]

thanks for the help guys.

 

My style - - I pay a lot for these skis, better use ALL of them! ;-) I do ride the front quite a bit and counter rotate.

 

The guys that are on the Mid and Wide, are they old school, new or mixed?

[clemsondave]

Interesting.... Thanks JD. Size chart says 63.75" 168a. Wow, that seems short!

[Ed_Johnson]

Dave,

 Speaking for myself, I use New School with the Wide Ride. In fact that is why I switched from the Reg. to the WR since it really enhances New School Technique..............ED

[clemsondave]

Sweet! I've got it narrowed down to 3! ;-)

 

thanks everyone, guess I'll just have to give one a shot.

[skidawg]

If you ride the front and counter rotate you need an elite, last ski you will buy for a long time. 2 yr warranty and guaranteed not to break in half and leave you riding crutches!  ;-)

[scoke]

Of course your going to have the Elite/strada salesman!!

 

Quite a few guys have moved off the WR to the mid especially the guys that are under 6' and 185lbs. MR fits them a bit better. Better space before the buoy.

[clemsondave]

Yea, I'd love to try them all, but this time of year, time is limited b/t tournaments. I'm mainly looking for some consistency that seems to have disappeared. Of course, it has to be the ski.... ;-) If that doesn't work, I'm going to go steal my '06 X5!

[scoke]

 

Verdict?

 

[tru-jack]

not much help, but I have an 06 x5 67.5" available.  Definitely cheaper....

[clemsondave]

Shelby, OB flew all the way up here to brainwash me into a mid. Hoping to try one soon. Oh, he also said ya'll were going to join our club.

 

I think that X5 is still in demand. I assume you have it listed on ski-it-again?

[tru-jack]

x5. not listed yet.  I'm thinking of moving to z7 and if it sells that will force my move to z7.

[clemsondave]

Your back will love the Z7. I loved the X5, but it definitely took some effort. Not sure your time frame, but if I like the mid, I'll probably sell my Z7.

[Boody]

Really looking forward to hear how the MR works, let us know.

Dave Goode, if you are reading I am willing to accept a mid ride for no cost and give you my honest feedback.  Its a win-win Dave!

Or, I will also accept a MR at cost and make payments of $50 a month, let me know.....

 

[clemsondave]

I'm hosting a last minute tournament next Wed. One round in the dark with my own lighted buoys. I'm hoping to convince the boss to let me try the Mid after that.

[tru-jack]

cd you on a z7 or z7st?

[scoke]

 

OB could sell ice cubes to eskimos!

 

[jdarwin]

I have a 68" Z7 ST I'll sell for $790.  Very few sets - mfg date:  4-29-10.

[clemsondave]

Jack - I'm on a 66" Z7.

[clemsondave]

Slight set back. I think I broke my foot. Crazy thing is that I have no clue how. It wasn't skiing. OB must have stepped on it when he came up here. I tried skiing today and there is no way it's happening. Guess I'll be the designated driver for our night tournament this Wed.

[tru-jack]

thanks guys, I'm quite interested in JD's z7.  I rode a 67" as it's all that was local and need the 68" as I'm over 200lbs.  didn't notice until I got back on my x5 but it's a bit easier to hold on, I suppose this is what Dave was talking about?

If I can sort out some deadbeat tenants (by the way, never get into landlord situations if you can help it, it truly blows) I will buy JD's ski.  Just wish there were some local stradas to try out but there are not. 

I like the z7 because it feels comfortable first set due to riding kd and d3 for the last few years and I'm in Canada so demo's are not easy to come by.  Anyone try a strada from D3 esp. X5?  thanks all

[Roger]

I know know three different people who have hurt their back on the mid ride (as opposed to none on the wide-ride and none on the 9900), so be careful.

Chet Raley measured his Mid-Ride and his Warp and the Warp is wider... Not really sure what the Mid in Mid-Ride means? It's certainly not area...

 

[tru-jack]

I'm inquiring about the z7 compared to the x5.  Not interested in the Goode skis. 

I am interested in the x5 to z7 and maybe the strada if anyone has made a similar transition.

 

[skidawg]

There have been back injuries on the wide ride also!

[Chef23]

I am not a Goode apologist but have there never been any back injuries on the regular Goode?? What makes the new skis more prone to back injuries?

[skidawg]

There have been back injuries on every kind of ski

[Stevie Boy]

Personally I would think most back injuries come from slack line or a Dodgy Driver, the ski would have very litttle to do with it.

[ForrestGump]

I'm not buying that one ski or the other causes back injuries.

[clemsondave]

I agree. Although there was much less stress on my back muscles when I went from an X5 to a Z7. Less effort and could ski longer.

 

Roger, I just read your post. Is the Mid wider than the regular 9900? I assumed it had to be since the chart says I should be on a 63.75" mid.

[Chef23]

They are. If you scroll down this page you can see the max widths for the skis.

http://www.goode.com/wskiamp.htm

[Roger]

I'm sure the mid is wider than the 9900 and not as wide as the wide ride, it was just interesting that the mid ride was not wider than another brand's standard ski (which you would expect to be more in line with the 9900).

[Chef23]

65" Mid ride is .25" wider than a Strada.  I am not sure if other mfgs publish the width of their skis.

[clemsondave]

Mid on the way.... Thanks everyone.

[clemsondave]

Thanks JD, so those numbers will get me through 39 like those guys, huh? ;-) I'd be happy if it gets me 38 more often.

 

Do you have the length via tips? Most calipers I have used vary on the jaws measurement. That's the way I measure, but I'm sure mine are different than others.

[Boody]

Right on Dave!! Let us know how it goes.

[clemsondave]

I'm impressed! Will report in later.

[clemsondave]

Used JD's settings with boots at stock 29.125. Had a very unusual strong wind at the lake this afternoon (storms blowing though right now). Started with a couple 28s to get used to it. Took 35 tail wind with heavy chop. Ran it with no problem. Didn't try much at 38. It impressed me, not that 35 is hard, but that I ran it pretty easy while still being cautious and with a significant tail wind on my 4th pass on the ski.

 

2nd set with calmer conditions, I was pushing it harder and made it to 4 @ 38 several times. Kept making silly mistakes (why can't I find a ski that takes my brain out of the equation?). I like that I can rip an offside turn without stalling and zero feeling that it might blow the tail.

 

The does as advertised and fixes the couple things I was having trouble with on my Z7. It maintains speed in the turns no matter how early I get there. And it turns hard without stalling. My Z7 is just as quick cross course and turns just as hard, but I've been having those two issues for a while.

 

With the water as hot as it is, I'm somewhat content with 4 @ 38 on my second set.

[Boody]

Dude, that is awesome. 4 at 38 on first day is a impressive, u will be running that once u get used to it. My biggest question was speed, I knew it would turn good.

[smanski]

clemsondave, Didn't you get the 63.75?  I have a 63.75 arriving tomorrow.  I rode the 65 MSL for a set a few weeks ago and was very impressed.  Out of the 7 skis I have tried this year (3 elites, 1 older D3, 2 Goodes and an older ConnelIy), the mid and wide are the only ones that impressed me.  I am 6' and 165,  which pegs me for the 63.75.  It seems short to me also.  You are about 10 pounds heavier so that makes me feel a little better about the length.

You mentioned JD's settings, but I didn't see them in the posts.  What are the settings you are using?

[clemsondave]

Yes, I got the 63.75. It's about 1.5" shorter than my 66" Z7. It does not feel short at all.

 

6.780 jaws; .720; 2.500; 8*

 

Those worked very well, but I'm going to experiment on Friday to see where the extremes are.

[clemsondave]

Anyone want to buy a Mid Ride?

[acmx]

Honeymoon over already?

[Boody]

What??????! No way! You cold return it and get the 9900sl. I thought u were liking it?

[clemsondave]

Honeymoon is over. Never got past 4 @ 38 ball and it was breaking me in half at that line length. It's got a ton of potential, but its not the right time of year to mess with it. I bought it on ski-it-again, so I'll need to sell it.