Baller Stevie Boy Posted April 18, 2010 Baller Share Posted April 18, 2010 H,i can anybody give me the fin numbers + binding placement for 66" / 67" Strada, Many Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted April 18, 2010 Baller Share Posted April 18, 2010 Strada Set Up Numbers65 28 1/8" 2.500, 6.845, 0.745 966 28 5/8" 2.500, 6.845, 0.750 967 29 1/2" 2.505, 6.850, 0.750 968 30"    2.500, 6.855, 0.760 9 For toe loop skiers, the boots go 1/8" more forward and the fin moves forward 0.005 and less length by 0.005.Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Andre Posted April 18, 2010 Baller Share Posted April 18, 2010 How'bout that for a full answer!Thanks Chris! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Stevie Boy Posted April 19, 2010 Author Baller Share Posted April 19, 2010 Thanks Chris ! I have watched you ski at princes club pro am many times , may I take this opprtunity to say that your skiing style and commitment is inspiring may you have good fortune in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller teammalibu Posted April 20, 2010 Baller Share Posted April 20, 2010 ChrisAny suggestions on numbers for 34 mph. and reflex front binding.Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted April 21, 2010 Baller Share Posted April 21, 2010 Mike, those #s above are REALLY close to what Rossi gave me for 34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Wolters Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Mike,The only difference in numbers that Eddie gave me for a 67 was lenght being 6.840 and for now these numbers are sweet.Just remember my friend this ski loves counter rotation, comes around real nice and hooks up even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted April 21, 2010 Baller Share Posted April 21, 2010 Here's what Chris gave me for my 66..............Double Boot 28 5/8 2.505, 6.845, 0.750 9degrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted April 21, 2010 Baller Share Posted April 21, 2010 Shane,Don't forget to post up about what you feel when you go from 28 3/4" to 28 5/8". I am at 3/4 and also a bit short at 6.837. I think the smart move is to move back 1st and then add a bit of tip to tighten things up as needed. Hoping to have good weather this weekend for my first bit of experimentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted April 21, 2010 Baller Share Posted April 21, 2010 The numbers work for both 36 and 34. They are meant as starting numbers and you can dial in as your style needs after that. When Matt and I have put skiers at the above numbers, we have not had any need for further adjustment. For guys running deep shortline on the 67, you could start at 6.845 length. That is measured in tips by the way. I run the 66 at basically the above numbers but have the fin deeper (2.52) and I run my boots at 28 3/4". I think I may end up more like 2.517 but have been liking how a deep fin keeps my ski moving through the turn. Most skiers will not like the fin that deep.  Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted April 21, 2010 Baller Share Posted April 21, 2010 Scott, tried it tonight at 28 5/8 with my boots tight to each other. Set a new pb. Me likee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted April 22, 2010 Baller Share Posted April 22, 2010 Glad you like the ski Shane. Radar has sold a lot of these things already and it's not even summer weather yet! Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jörgen Jansson Posted April 22, 2010 Members Share Posted April 22, 2010 Chris I weigh 183 pounds and 5.83 ft. long / short. Ski 34 mph and 36 mph a bit.go 39 deep.What do you recommend for the size of strada?Is there a diffrence in size if you just want to go one speed 34 or 36?/Jörgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted April 22, 2010 Baller Share Posted April 22, 2010 Well, I have two ways to try it now. My reason for trying to move back a bit was to keep the ski moving through toe side, but Chris' reasoning of going deeper with the fin might accomplish the same thing. On the other side of the coin, I am at already at 2.510, so the move back might be the one. Time for a little experimentation.   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted April 22, 2010 Baller Share Posted April 22, 2010 Jorgen,I would go with a 66. If you could have two skis, you might want to try a 67 for your 34mph skiing, but I have a feeling you would still like the 66. Just my two cents. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted April 22, 2010 Baller Share Posted April 22, 2010 Scott,   Keep me updates with your testing results! Would love your feedback. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted April 23, 2010 Baller Share Posted April 23, 2010 I thought about going a bit deeper now, too. Maybe to 2.510 to start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller teammalibu Posted April 23, 2010 Baller Share Posted April 23, 2010 Thanks guys for all the info.Plan on trying it tomorrow if the big brown truck shows up and I can find a driver.JD is out of town this weekend.Honk Honk the truck is here Im so excited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted April 23, 2010 Baller Share Posted April 23, 2010 Who's gonna pull you Mike? JD's out. Dawg has a Tri on Sunday and thinks he needs to rest. (Whuss) Hopefully Jim is free.  I hate to tell you this, but you are going to be a convert. Hopefully JD will be able to handle your defection from the D3 camp. Call me this weekend and let me know what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller teammalibu Posted April 25, 2010 Baller Share Posted April 25, 2010 I can get Karen to pull me if this !@#$%^ 35 mph wind ever lets upHate first ride on a new ski in !@#$%^ white caps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted April 25, 2010 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Flew to DFW to ski the Strada this weekend.The Strada Rocks. I tried to go deeper then 2.500 but found that to be the best. .756 was better then .750The ski can turn and still provides a bit of slide after hook up. After comming off of a 67 RS1, the 66 was pleanty of ski for me. Radar has made a great ski again and you will see lots of them on the water soon.The best part is that I just mounted it up and went right through all my easy passes with no issues. (with a big smile on my face)By my 4th set, I was being coached and I forgot that I had a new ski under me. Awesome ski.Thager was even looking good on it after getting his hips up.     Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RichardDoane Posted April 25, 2010 Baller Share Posted April 25, 2010 where's the pictures ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted April 26, 2010 Share Posted April 26, 2010 No pics, just a big smile on my face. I am waiting for the flex numbers to be sent to me and then its a call to Radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted April 28, 2010 Baller Share Posted April 28, 2010 skied the 67 strada 3 sets now just started ski this season, 185lbs 6'2"  turny pb 1@ -38 started at 29 1/4 fb  2504 6850 75, 9 down slow turning both sides moved boots forward now at 29 1/2 fb 75.5 2504 6850 9 better still want a quicker/ tigher  off side turn just running -22 and -28 now  there are like a station wagan 135  great 246 as good or better than my 67 MPD  thinking about going to 2500 depth ski is supper stable!! they do ski big,     I may need to try 66 !! Deano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Deano,Try a bit longer at 6.856 and back the depth down to 2.500.I bet the 1-3-5 lights up.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller slow Posted April 28, 2010 Baller Share Posted April 28, 2010 I am 180lbs and 6ft coming off a 67 prophecy. Ski turns great and carries speed better for me Took me a few sets to get used to how light and nimble it felt. Glad I got the 66. 34mph 32 off. Also free ski a bit on the rivers around couer' d alene. I am amazed how easy this ski comes around while feeling fast and predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted May 3, 2010 Baller Share Posted May 3, 2010 I tried your numbers, MS. You can keep them! lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Shane,What was the issue? If anything it may be too long at 6.856. Try 6.850, .756 and 2.500 Maybe even 2.48The depth is fine for me and length seams a bit better. But I did notice that the DFT needed to be in the .756 range to make it a sweet turning ski.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller ForrestGump Posted May 3, 2010 Baller Share Posted May 3, 2010 2.505, 6.845, .750 seems to work best for me. Much more space in front of the buoy. Increasing the dft made it so that if I pushed the ski any, it would hammer the finish of the turn. It already turns so well, I didn't need that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old MS Accout Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Could be the differance in our boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted May 5, 2010 Baller Share Posted May 5, 2010 Ok 5 th set on the 67 strada  5th set of the yr it was a long snowski seasoni'm close to the # ms through out there29 1/2 Fb size 8 reflex 17 1/4 rear animal medium2.500 6.856 .77 9 down wicked off side turns now, fast and smooth ski  will start to get some 32 and 35 next weekDeano185 lbs 6'2" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rook Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Chris,In your post regarding set up #'s for the Strada, you said, "For toe loop skiers, the boots go 1/8" more forward and the fin moves forward 0.005 and less length by 0.005." If you would, please explain why the front boot for toe loop skiers should be an 1/8" more forward, and the reason for the different fin settings for D.O.T. and fin length.  Thank you in advance,Doug Rooker  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted May 13, 2010 Baller Share Posted May 13, 2010 Radar factory numbers are set for double boots. When a skier uses a toe loop, they have relatively no pull from their rear heel in the pre turn. The ski acts very differently with this lack of pull. The suggested changes will make the ski perform better. The forward boot movement helps to engage the tip in the preturn. Less tip and forward will allow the ski to carry out with the forward boot and still make tight turns. If a toe loop skier were to ski at our factory settings for double boots, the ski would run too straight in the pre turn and make turns that have too large a radius. Hope this helps. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ktm300 Posted May 14, 2010 Members Share Posted May 14, 2010 Chris Rossi, I ski with my size 10 feet close together. With 29.25 front, the back would be 17.50-17.75 (I don't mind them apart in this range) You once wrote that, for you, you set the rear where you want it and the front follows. On the RS1, I HAD to spread them apart to feel like I was standing in the right place on both sides of the course. With that target spacing in mind, where should I start with the boots on the Strada? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted May 14, 2010 Baller Share Posted May 14, 2010 Chris, Thanks for dropping some real knowledge on us hackers from time to time. I ski dbl boots, but I like to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted May 14, 2010 Baller Share Posted May 14, 2010 Start with the front boot at 29 1/2" (67" Strada) and a spacing that feels good to you. We can work from there to dial it in. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller MrJones Posted May 14, 2010 Baller Share Posted May 14, 2010 Chris, I understand you and Trent are running a bit forward of the "factory" 29 5/8" recommendation for the 66" ski. What were you looking for in the move and what is the trade off? Thanks again for all the input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted May 15, 2010 Baller Share Posted May 15, 2010 I am now running 28 5/8" on the 66. When the water was colder, I ran 28 3/4. I just go with what feels best on both sides of the course. Can't believe how many of these skis I'm seeing already. Fun stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller RichardDoane Posted May 15, 2010 Baller Share Posted May 15, 2010 Stradas are going to be all over the podiums this season ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Reading from what Chris Rossi said above are these top skis being designed more towards the double boots that rtp skiers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted May 16, 2010 Baller Share Posted May 16, 2010 The ski is designed with all skiers in mind. That is why I clarified the RTP settings. We have had a lot of toe loop skiers have success on this ski.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb Posted May 16, 2010 Share Posted May 16, 2010 Thanks Chris,  I will move my binding forward on the RS1 and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tjm Posted May 24, 2010 Baller Share Posted May 24, 2010 155, 34mph, working on 28, what size strada,  currently on 66 a1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie_roberts_jr Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 I would go with a 66". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Chris Rossi Posted May 24, 2010 Baller Share Posted May 24, 2010 I agree. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck_Dickey Posted May 24, 2010 Share Posted May 24, 2010 Hi Chris, I am coming off an A-1. PB 5@28 on the A-1. Really good offside turner. I'm trying a 67" Strada, 180#, 34mph Settings are 2.50, 6.850, 0.757, 9 degree Size 9 Strada boots LFF @ 29.5" to rear of front boot. Good pull out to a one handed gate, good turn in through the gates, great one ball, way early to two ball, then coming out of two ball pointed right at 3 ball. Do you think technique or settings? Should I go forward with my front boot 1/8" or add a bit more tip. 6.85XX ?  I know, hard to tell w/o video, but what's your best guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aarons01 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I'm having the same trouble Chuck. I'm gonna work on settings today. I am on animals and have them as far forward as they will go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller tjm Posted May 25, 2010 Baller Share Posted May 25, 2010 Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller Deanoski Posted May 28, 2010 Baller Share Posted May 28, 2010 Chuck I have a 67 and it was doing the same thing, so I moved the bindings back 1/2 hole moved fin back to 74.7  magic!!! -32 real smooth and early -35 will try soon spring has been cold and wet in the east wa. 29 1/2 fb 17 1/4 rear 2.500 6.850 74.7 9 down 185lbs 6'2" Deano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baller slow Posted May 28, 2010 Baller Share Posted May 28, 2010 I have the same problem on the 67" as well. I talked to Chris at radar and he said move the bindings back a half hole as well and also move the fin back after that. I will try it this weekend. I am currnently at 0.76,6.85,2.48 and 29.5 front boot.I am tring the 66" too. Settings are .75, 6.85, 2.5 and 28 5/8. I am 185lbs and a 32 off 34mph skier. The 66 turns awesome on my offside especially. I feel unstable on it however, especially if i get on the front. I took a header on it 2 weeks ago, the first one in a while. The Strada boots releasing great was the only positive. Any recommendatins on improving the stability on it would be helpful. Suprisingly I get plenty of width with it.I am on the fence on length becouse I typically drop into the mid 170s by July. I need to make up my mind soon. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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