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Ski, Fins & Bindings: New HO boot system

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    • CommentAuthordisland
    • CommentTimeJan 25th 2010
     
    Anyone seen it?
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      CommentAuthorTuney
    • CommentTimeJan 25th 2010
     
    They look like this: http://www.h2oproshop.com/ho-syndicate-exo-pro-boots.html
    • CommentAuthorBruce55
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2010
     
    Yes. I posted pics on the discussion page 2 of BOS. These are the EXO Form model, not the PRO. The main difference b/w the pics on h2osmosis and what I tried on at my dealer is there are cuffs at the ankles and the material is more "supportive" than the pics. Very comfy.
    • CommentAuthortrs1
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2010 edited
     

    Pre Order Your HO Exo Forms/Exo Pro's Today.

    Enter "BOS2010" for free ground shipping for all BOS Lurkers/posters/etc.

    Should be getting our first inventory order very soon.

     

    http://www.h2oproshop.com/ho-exo-form-boots.html

    http://www.h2oproshop.com/ho-syndicate-exo-pro-boots.html

     

    Thanks

    Tadd

    tadd at h2osmosis dot com.

    H2OProshop.com

    • CommentAuthorHH
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2010
     

     Hi Tadd

    This binding looks very interesting -Did anyone ski with the HO binding (i.e. Seth)? I know it is difficult in the middle of the winter but I would be interested to read reviews.

    Can you heat-mold the liners?

    How do you mount this binding on other skis than HO? Are there G10 plates available?

    Thanks

     Holger

     

    • CommentAuthortrs1
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2010
     

    Holger,

     

    There have been very few of these actually released.  Mainly to reps and a few others.  We are still waiting on our first pair, we will get on them as soon as we can to test them out, etc.  I know HO is going to make an adapter plate, and I am still waiting to see when that will be available.  I know that it should fit any ski with an HO pattern, but I am waiting on a reply as to if it will fit Obrien/Radar pattern and D3/Connelly pattern.

    As soon as i get a reply, I will post it.

    Unless someone else already knows?.?.

    Also, as far as I know, yes you can heat mold the liners.

    Basically, from what I have seen/heard of the boots, they have taken what has already been around in hardshells as a starting point, and made it a TON better, more user friendly, etc.  In a nut shell, at least.  When I can get my hands on a pair and use them I will really find out exactly how good they are.

    Thanks

    TS

     

    • CommentAuthorMattP
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2010
     
    Correct me if i'm wrong but this new system is only for double boot users only no RTP version
    • CommentAuthorBrent
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2010
     
    They should post a video showing how they release & give a bit of a discription of the features such as heat moldable liners, adjustable release tension & so on! At the moment they look like my Cross Country ski boots & binding system.
    • CommentAuthorAndré
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2010
     
    Can you cant the rear?
    • CommentAuthorBrent
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2010
     
    Can't you cant the rear? ( Is that a double negative?)
    • CommentAuthorAndré
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2010 edited
     

    No it's not.Just get Andy here you dawm bloke...

    Wanna a puppy?

    • CommentAuthorDanE
    • CommentTimeJan 27th 2010
     

    So, what makes the EXO Form´s "less aggressive" than the Pro´s ?

    From the pictures they look identical except from the color.

    • CommentAuthorskiron07
    • CommentTimeJan 27th 2010
     

    the Exo Pro's are stiffer than the Exo Forms and thus tranlate more energy between the ski and skier

     

    • CommentAuthorMattP
    • CommentTimeJan 27th 2010 edited
     
    You are also paying an extra $100 for the stiffer bindings
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    An extra $100, for what is probably a minor additional cost to manufacture, seems a little stiff - maybe that's what they mean...

    TW

    • CommentAuthorMattP
    • CommentTimeJan 27th 2010
     
    TW I think your right...
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      CommentAuthorricharddoane
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2010 edited
     
    I saw a set of the new EXO's at the Seattle Boat Show last night.  They mount on a very narrow bar, and only release from the heel.  I wasn't impressed by the silk screened DIN settings on the rear adjuster.  The paint had already begun to wear off, and they haven't even been used yet.  You are limited to an A, B, C, or D, without any definite adjustment marking in between, seems like a more permanent indexing system should have been incorporated into the design of the heel mount.  As for fit and finish of the boots, they were very nicely built, but the little zipper cover for the lower laces seems unnecessary.  Cory from HO said they's have some "demo days" scheduled this Spring, which is a good idea - I'd like to give them a try.  Although, I'd have to borrow an A-1 with the proper inserts in order to attach the plate assembly. I'll be back at the Boat Show this next week and will shoot a quick video to post.
    • CommentAuthor04196
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2010
     
    Also saw these at the Seattle show last night (EXO Forms),  new versions of this set up are sure to come. I think the only way out of these is an OTF, especially the front foot, a little concerning. No front release as Richard stated. I do like the low rear cuff on this set but would feel the rear foot might come out before the front or a complete release of the plate from the ski. Set up looks nice and expectations are high, will be interesting to hear feedback once these hit the water but I think I'm waiting to try these until some data is back from those that have. I applaud HO for investing time & $$ in a trying to improve upon the hardshell/hybrid options, good things to come.
    • CommentAuthorHO 410
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2010
     
    I was really surprised to find out that HO is building their own release. Don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing, but it definitely shows that HO wasn't messing around with the Exo. Like all, I'll be very interested in taking a close look. But personally, I'll need to see something just shy of magic to get off RS-1's.
    • CommentAuthorDanE
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2010 edited
     

    I have some questions for those of You who have seen the EXO´s first hand.

    What kind of material is the bar that the boots are attached to made of ?

    Is it flexible enough that it would allow the front boot to bend it upwards to the extent that it would release from the heel piece in case of an OFT that puts the most pressure on the front ankle ?

    Can You rotate or move the boots in relation to the centerline of the bar ?

    Maybe an HO rep could chime in and elaborate a little regarding release properties and stuff ?

    I do think the cover for the laces is a good idea, it would make the water spray that hits primarily the rear boot to slip by more easily.

    I noticed while playing around with different boot setups (rubber, Diablos, RS-1s, Approach) that if the boots are slimmer the ski moves alot easier through the water in the beginning of the pull.That is really noticeable if I overturn or get in trouble in the finish of the turn and need a big pull to get back in the game.Wide rear boots like the Approaches or D3 Leverage can add some drag in some situations.

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